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How much do you earn for say 200 clicks a day?
because my earnings are pathetic
stardoc




msg:1370271
 1:49 pm on Jan 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a popular website which logs in about 200 clicks a day, but somehow it is now translating into a good income. I have enough ads for my keywords to fill in even 3 skyscrapers on a page (although i use one or two on most pages) and the keywords net more than $1.5 each on adwords. I am just wondering that even if i get $0.5 per click, i should have been earning around $100 a day. But my income is several times less than that.

Can I have an idea how much others earn for the similar statistics?

 

stardoc




msg:1370301
 4:55 pm on Jan 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

nopes itisgene, i already said that the top four or five sponsors are the same on both websites. In fact three of them have their business HQ in UK.

...and the sponsors are the same. Almost all of these sponsors sell online products and their relevancy is same in both markets

rfung




msg:1370302
 5:46 pm on Jan 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Two days ago I redesigned my entire site, and placed the big block at the center, bottom (so the users scan my entries, and then if they can't find what they're looking for, run into the adsense ads).

As a result of the redesign, in the past 2 days I have a third of the ad impressions, and _quadruple_ the ctr! (which converts to about 2.5x the previous revenue...)

I'm crossing my fingers that this will keep going on.

TNJed




msg:1370303
 6:21 pm on Jan 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm crossing my fingers that this will keep going on.

It should. I had a similar experience when I first discovered the ideal placement for my sites. I was amazed at how big a difference the ad placement played in everything.

Remember those oversized Prince tennis racquets of the 80's and their "sweetspot"? I think of Adsense as finding my site's sweetspot. Oddly enough, both are in about the same place for me. ;)

[edited by: TNJed at 6:25 pm (utc) on Jan. 21, 2005]

Undead Hunter




msg:1370304
 6:23 pm on Jan 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes, it very much depends on HOW your users visit your site, in terms of what and where things will work.

We can make all the suggestions in the world, but you just won't know for sure until you test these out.

darkmage




msg:1370305
 2:14 am on Jan 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

What is the obsession with an average CPC? The number is pretty-much meaningless. It is only historical - it has little predictive use for an individual site or page.

Let's take the unverified 32 cent example quoted above. What does it mean exactly for a site or a page? To get 32 cents CPC average, you could easily have 9 ads earning 3 cent CPC and one earning $2.93. Average - 32 cents. But which ads on which pages on which sites at what time? Nobody knows for sure. So how does the number help?

In short, forget average CPC, particularly from heresay or 'I read somewhere...'.

hitsusa




msg:1370306
 3:42 am on Jan 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

I always thought the best stat was the percentage of visitors that click on the Google ads.

Mine are well north of 25% most days: clicks/uniques

And that's with 90k uniques a month plus 30k more vists by repeats.

Don't sweat the small stuff like revenue per click because it's outside your sphere of control.

Focus instead on pumping up your traffic volume and AdSense will make you a very happy camper...

rfung




msg:1370307
 3:52 am on Jan 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

25% ctr? care to share some of the layout secrets to get there?

no9t9




msg:1370308
 4:10 am on Jan 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

his CTR is for unique visitor not for impression. the CTR will be lower if calculated using impressions because i assume each visitor will average more than 1 impression.

In terms of CTR for impressions, if I assume 5 page views per unique... that means the 25% CTR becomes 5%... which is still good. but not out of this world good.

hitsusa




msg:1370309
 2:43 pm on Jan 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

25% ctr? care to share some of the layout secrets to get there?

Recipe for success:

You want easy-to-read advertising placed prominently on your web pages so that it doesn't look like advertising.

1 - Take Google's recommended format (336x280)
2 - Remove all distractions (i.e. borders, etc.)
3 - Adust contrast to best black on white
4 - Use web standard blue hue on link
5 - Soften contrast on advertiser URL
6 - Place ad block above your page headline
7 - Align to left side (Use no borders!)
8 - Don't use any other ads on page

Results: Excellent!

Note: This is exactly what Google says to do if you read between the lines and think outside the box format.

This works extremely well (produces the kind of CTR you've always dreamed of getting) on eleven sites - 2 automotive, 3 loans, 3 general info sites, and 3 computer-related sites.

YMMV...

Cheers!

hitsusa




msg:1370310
 2:48 pm on Jan 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

his CTR is for unique visitor not for impression. the CTR will be lower if calculated using impressions because i assume each visitor will average more than 1 impression.

In terms of CTR for impressions, if I assume 5 page views per unique... that means the 25% CTR becomes 5%... which is still good. but not out of this world good.

Double digits every day on every site...

level80




msg:1370311
 9:56 am on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

We've had people here complain about earning two cents a click, and I don't imagine it does Google much good when those people share their stats. :-)

Well actually that can be surmised from Google's lowest bid per click. It's $0.05, so minus Google's cut brings the minimum click to the above. Yes, all that can be said without breaching the ToS. ;)

Google can't control everything.... and the $0.05 minimum bid is common knowledge to Adwords publishers. Google's expenses and take of the cake are well known too.

europeforvisitors




msg:1370312
 5:06 pm on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google's expenses and take of the cake are well known too.

Google's compensation formula is secret. The only thing that can be known for sure is what percentage is going to publishers overall, not on a case-by-case basis.

imidazole




msg:1370313
 2:56 am on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

"The click through rate is quite low as the visitors usually get all the information on the pages of the site itself and hovers between 0.2 to 0.6%..." Stardoc

We are talking about 50k visitors/day..what is the PR to get the kind of traffic PR4 and above?

Thanks!

David

Brett_Tabke




msg:1370314
 4:49 am on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

If people want to talk about their stats - that is their business. If you are against that, then be thankful that there may be one less person in the program. If you have a problem with the AdSense TOS, take it up with Google. I cleaned atleast 40 offtopic posts out of this thread.

incrediBILL




msg:1370315
 10:06 am on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

Let's discuss earnings in non-google specific terms.

If you sold direct advertising, what CPM or CPC rate could you sell it for?

Depending on the avertiser, my direct ad sales have been anywhere from $0.25 to $1 CPC, and CPM from $2 to $12 before the bottom fell out on ad rates a couple of years ago. Most web sites these days are lucky if they can sell ads at $3 CPM, so if your Adsense meets or exceeds that, then you're in good shape. Heck, if you get a monthly check you're probably doing better than a large percentage of the people with Adsense on their site!

Just my $0.02 CPC

martingale




msg:1370316
 10:27 am on Jan 31, 2005 (gmt 0)


I have had good luck with a left column down the side of my site showing a skyscraper. That's first in my HTML now, and it's the most-hit ad block on my page.

On my main index page there's a list of news stories. I run my next ad block between the lead story and the second story. I have sometimes experimented with putting it above the lead story, but overall, my earnings went down because I think it competed too much with the left skyscraper. Down at the bottom of my page I have a leaderboard running right across the whole site.

One thing I've done counter to the above suggestion is that I have the URL in the ads red. Maybe I ought not to do that? I had thought red woudl be better... I will experiment later with softening the red and see whether anythign wonderful happens.

I get (from my own stats, no violation of the TOS here) about 25-30% CTR per unique, or about 8-10% per page impression (which, note, with 3 ad blocks is STILL not the same thing as a google impression).

miracle




msg:1370317
 8:56 am on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

My earnings are averaging to about 5 cents a click :( It used to be at least 20-30 cents average. What's going on? Are the new AdWords policies to blame? I might not afford to pay my expenses for the web hosting if this continues.

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