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Adsense Filter is Not Foolproof
Filtered Sites Are Displayed
Blue_Fin




msg:1378346
 12:59 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

About a month ago, we added www.widgets.com to our list of filtered sites. Just now, when hovering over an ad, I see "go to widgets.com/xxx"

If a domain is filtered, any URL from that domain should be filtered as well.

I have emailed Google about this, but I suspect it could be Monday before I get a response. I provided the entire tracking URL obtained through right clicking and selecting Properties.

 

Jenstar




msg:1378347
 1:12 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Interesting. Was the URL on the right click also going to www.widgets.com? Or was the actual URL going to www.widgetsaffiliate.com or something similar? But regardless, according to Google, it should block the ad whether it is the destination URL or the displayed one.

Has anyone else noticed anything similar?

richmondsteve




msg:1378348
 1:18 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

About a month ago, we added www.widgets.com to our list of filtered sites. Just now, when hovering over an ad, I see "go to widgets.com/xxx"

I suspect that it's because Adwords advertisers can specify a different hostname to appear in the AdWords/Adsense ad body than the hostname that appears as part of the actual destination URL and I think blocking matches the actual destination URL (someone please verify).

To check the destination URL right-click the hyperlink portion of the ad, copy it, paste it into a text editor and inspect the q variable (string after q=). If the hostname for the URL in the q variable doesn't match the hostname in the ad body that's probably why.

Let us know what you discover.

Jenstar




msg:1378349
 1:32 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

From the FAQ:
The URLs you enter into your filter list can be the actual URL of the website or the URL that is displayed on the AdWords ad for that website.

This should mean that www.widgets.com should not be showing up on Blue_Fin's site, whether it is the displayed URL or the destination URL. Otherwise, Google should say something to the effect of needing to use the destination URL instead.

The FAQ then tells you how to find the domain for your filter list, by either mouseover or right click. But the mouseover would show the displayed URL, not the destination URL, if they happened to be different different domains.

I have seen plenty of ads using completely different destination domains (ie. domainA.com) when their ad just says domain.com, so others could be running into this problem, and perhaps not realize it if they do not surf their sites regularly.

Sharper




msg:1378350
 1:33 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Maybe this was just a typo in your post, but, "www.widgets.com" is different than "widgets.com". I've found that it's always best to block both variations of the domain name (with www and without) as well as any other subdomains you see an ad using.

Blue_Fin




msg:1378351
 1:40 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Was the URL on the right click also going to www.widgets.com? Or was the actual URL going to www.widgetsaffiliate.com or something similar?

Going to www.widgets.com. Here's a cut and paste from Properties. I have replaced both the real domain and what comes after the / with widgets and replaced my Publisher ID with xxxxxxxxxx

[pagead2.googlesyndication.com...]

The issue is that Google's filter is only recognizing the exact URL you have filtered. They are not recognizing additional pages on the same domain. This is not an issue of what is displayed vs. the destination URL because they are both the same in this case. The entire domain should be blocked and Google isn't doing that.

This would be akin to filtering www.cnn.com and having an ad display for www.cnn.com/weather. If I filter www.cnn.com, I don't want any ads displayed from anywhere on CNN.

Jenstar




msg:1378352
 1:46 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Even more interesting. Notice the URL in the AdSense tracking URL is [widgets.com...] and not [widgets.com?...] (Unless that was an ommission on your part ;) ) We already know Google considers www.widgets.com and widgets.com as being two domains in the regular Google index (many have duplicates and different PRs in the index depending on whether it has the www. in front or not), so perhaps AdSense is handling this issue the same way.

On the same note, it might omit anything that is from the domain whether it is www.widgets.com or www.widgets.com/folder/tracking.html but it just doesn't realize that www.widgets.com and widgets.com are infact the same domain name, not two different ones.

Blue_Fin




msg:1378353
 2:01 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Notice the URL in the AdSense tracking URL is [widgets.com...] and not [widgets.com?...] (Unless that was an ommission on your part

No, there is no www. in either the tracking URL or what is displayed when hovering over the ad.

richmondsteve




msg:1378354
 2:24 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

No, there is no www. in either the tracking URL or what is displayed when hovering over the ad.

In your first post you said:

...we added www.widgets.com to our list of filtered sites.

Try adding widgets.com to the filter instead. I have always blocked using the full hostname and have never had a problem. The problem you're having may be that www.widgets.com does not match widgets.com.

Blue_Fin




msg:1378355
 2:45 am on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

That's a good suggestion, richmondsteve, but I think I'd rather wait and see what Google has to say when they read my email. I don't want to skew their test results by having widgets.com in the filter when it wasn't there at the time I emailed them.

Blue_Fin




msg:1378356
 11:15 pm on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Try adding widgets.com to the filter instead. I have always blocked using the full hostname and have never had a problem. The problem you're having may be that www.widgets.com does not match widgets.com.

You hit the nail on the head there, richmondsteve.

I just received a response from Google and that was what they told me to do.

richmondsteve




msg:1378357
 11:37 am on Aug 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm glad I could help - hope that takes care of it.

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