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How do I Report Adsense Problem?
designaweb




msg:1343735
 5:28 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi,

How do I report someone who is abusing Adsense? I have reported a few of this spammer's domains already, but is there any way to specifically report adsense abusers?

 

marcuscent




msg:1343736
 5:38 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Depends what you mean by "abusing". Just because you see a site as being spam doesnt mean that the AdSense team will agree. As has been said here before, if a publisher is abiding by the rules and making money for Google then your complaint may not get much of a hearing.

Smiley




msg:1343737
 5:53 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

>Report Adsense Abuser

Why?

martinibuster




msg:1343738
 6:08 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm sorry, I must be lost.

Can AdSense be abused?

alika




msg:1343739
 6:12 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why report an Adsense abuser:

- to help point G to the problem
- to help improve overall image of Adsense to advertisers by helping remove undesirable publishers
- to make oneself feel good that they have contributed to the betterment of the Adsense program and the Internet world
- to do something "productive" to pass the time

Whether G agrees or not to the complaint lies with G. eBay has done very well with allowing fellow eBay users to report violations because they do not have the manpower to check each and every single auction listing - but it is always up to ebay to decide whether the listing is really a violation or not. Same principle with Adsense.

Click on the Ads by Goooooogle on the "violating" site and explain in the feedback form why you think the site is in violation.

designaweb




msg:1343740
 7:41 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

@alika: Thanks, and I couldn't have said it any better.

I love adsense (and so does my wallet) and I feel I should contribute to the quality of the program. Whether G agrees with me is another story, but at least I want to give it a try. And no, it aint no competitor of mine :)

sonny




msg:1343741
 7:44 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Amazing how people love to snitch out others. Worry about your sites, let Google cover their own behind.

ownerrim




msg:1343742
 7:51 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why report an Adsense abuser:

1. to cause grief for your competitors.

2. to be a busybody.

3. to inflict your perceptions of improper adsense
etiquette on others.

4. to kill time gleefully while you sit at home in your
underwear overoptimizing pages.

I have no problem with a conscientious webmaster reporting scrapers, content thieves, or those who simply repeat a single keyword hundreds of times with absolutely no useful content on the page, but I'd never encourage people to start ratting each other out.
One person's opinion as to what is good and proper may not be another's. Anyone recall Joe McCarthy?

yoyo8




msg:1343743
 7:52 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Amazing how people love to snitch out others.

I love "snitching" on others. I do it whenever I encounter such sites. It makes me feel better.

yowza




msg:1343744
 8:13 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

I reported Adsense abuse once because a site was getting all of its traffic from log spamming. I asked the owner to stop spamming me and he didn't. He actually said in a forum that complainers need to learn how to use .htaccess and stop whining. I usually ignore log spammers, but this guy spammed nearly 300 pages per month from five different domain names. If everyone spammed this much, either my bandwidth would go through the roof or I would have to have a huge .htaccess file. Thus, I reported him. Why should he be making money for pissing off webmasters?

The moral of the story is that there are good reasons to report Adsense abuse.

beren




msg:1343745
 8:17 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

I usually use the form on AdSense's website. At the bottom of the AdSense site there's a Contact Us link. I use that. Who knows if they actually read the submissions. I've had some success in getting action, but not every time.

Other times if the publisher is costing my money (I'm an advertiser, not a publisher) I log into my AdWords account and complain there. (Actually my clients' AdWords accounts.) My biggest client spends close to $1 million/year, so they do respond, and several sites I've complained about are no longer running AdSense.

It warms my heart to think of the e-mail the publisher must have received telling him that he was out.

Another thing I do is anonymously e-mail AdSense advertisers and point them to the sites their ads are appearing on. Or else send them links to threads at webmasterworld.com and elsewhere where publishers talk about things they. Who knows if anonymous e-mails get any attention? I can't use my real name because they would identify me as a competitor.

I try to devote about 2 hours/week to bringing down AdSense. (I know it's an impossible task, but in my fantasy world, there is no AdSense.) It's sort of my civic duty as a citizen of the Internet.

martinibuster




msg:1343746
 8:26 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Some of the so-called abusers are internet newbies who have no clue that what they're doing breaks any rules. You are being cruel or thoughtless if you don't contact the owner and let them correct the issue themselves.

I have contacted people who were shocked to find out that they were breaking the tos by incentivizing clicks etc. They swiftly corrected the problems, and expressed gratitude for my being kind enough to alert them.

It is an act of cruelty (and in some cases stupidity) to mindlessly cut the legs off an internet newbie instead of being kind and trying to help someone who needs help.

No offense intended, but to be frank, in my personal opinion and to my mind, people who are reporting them instead of helping them, are no different from those who laugh when senior citizens trip on the sidewalk, i.e. they are behaving like a creep.

WebGuerrilla




msg:1343747
 8:37 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)


The only AdSense abuse I report is the thousands of sites that use scraped content in order to profit from AdSense. If I find my copy on your site and you are running AdSense, I'm definitely going to click the link and report it.

But the sad thing is that Google doesn't care. They respond to the email, but the crap sites that are using the scraped content remain in the program.

jsavvy293




msg:1343748
 8:39 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

cheers to that martinibuster :)

yoyo8




msg:1343749
 8:56 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

And it is my opinion that some who abuse AS are like people who park in handicapped parking with fake passes. They try to get away with stuff clearly stated in the tos and then play dumb or make excuses when confronted. I'm not going to waste my time contacting a publisher first.

wonderboy




msg:1343750
 11:45 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

People at Google get paid for checking out sites quality. I am sure if something is wrong, it will be found out. Why waste your time?
W.

fidibidabah




msg:1343751
 12:40 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Exactly.

Do you truely believe the 'content' checkers over at Google are really incompetent?

I agree with a LOT that has been stated in this thread. Yes it's better to contact the webmaster first, etc.

But in all seriously, I strongly believe that Google allows sites that break the TOS (but make them lots of money) to stick around. They probabaly just drop their commission (so they get more of the profit), and wait for someone to complain. If anyone says "hey this is a spam site" they go "oh we didn't see" and remove it. It's perfect business sense.

FromRocky




msg:1343752
 1:50 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

There're always some abusers. In this case, we have both AdSense and reporting abusers.

yoyo8




msg:1343753
 2:01 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why waste your time?

I only do it if I encounter one while browsing around. I simply click Ads by Google and report it. Now if I were to contact the webmaster directly that would be wasting my time.

sonny




msg:1343754
 2:40 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

officious- Importunately interposing services; intermeddling in affairs in which one has no concern; meddlesome.

stuartmcdonald




msg:1343755
 3:11 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

4. to kill time gleefully while you sit at home in your underwear overoptimizing pages.

LOL nice one...

chicagohh




msg:1343756
 4:35 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

I thinks it's silly how often, people who bring up spam reports are quick to point out that they are not targeting a competitor. They just 'happened' upon a site that is breaking the rules and gee whiz, they feel honor bound to inform Google about the infraction. Right. I am sure most of them are hunched over their monitor with blood-shot eyes, sweaty palms and twitchy feet - hunting for that one slip-up by the more skilled competitor so they can gleefully click their bookmarks and pull down the spam report link. Gotchya!... you can almost hear them squeal.

IMO, if you spend more time working your own sites rather than the competition you won't be so surprised when they quickly send another site to the top of the SERP's.

Oh, well. We live in the age of the common man. Duffers can rarely see it any other way.

designaweb




msg:1343757
 8:14 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Some of the so-called abusers are internet newbies who have no clue that what they're doing breaks any rules. You are being cruel or thoughtless if you don't contact the owner and let them correct the issue themselves. I have contacted people who were shocked to find out that they were breaking the tos by incentivizing clicks etc. They swiftly corrected the problems, and expressed gratitude for my being kind enough to alert them. It is an act of cruelty (and in some cases stupidity) to mindlessly cut the legs off an internet newbie instead of being kind and trying to help someone who needs help. No offense intended, but to be frank, in my personal opinion and to my mind, people who are reporting them instead of helping them, are no different from those who laugh when senior citizens trip on the sidewalk, i.e. they are behaving like a creep.

@martinibuster: This is a well known spammer, so I aint wasting my time contacting him.

The only AdSense abuse I report is the thousands of sites that use scraped content in order to profit from AdSense. If I find my copy on your site and you are running AdSense, I'm definitely going to click the link and report it. But the sad thing is that Google doesn't care. They respond to the email, but the crap sites that are using the scraped content remain in the program.

@WebGuerrilla: That's exactly what this site is all about - scraped content (infact, google's own SERPS)

I thinks it's silly how often, people who bring up spam reports are quick to point out that they are not targeting a competitor. They just 'happened' upon a site that is breaking the rules and gee whiz, they feel honor bound to inform Google about the infraction. Right. I am sure most of them are hunched over their monitor with blood-shot eyes, sweaty palms and twitchy feet - hunting for that one slip-up by the more skilled competitor so they can gleefully click their bookmarks and pull down the spam report link. Gotchya!... you can almost hear them squeal. IMO, if you spend more time working your own sites rather than the competition you won't be so surprised when they quickly send another site to the top of the SERP's. Oh, well. We live in the age of the common man. Duffers can rarely see it any other way.

@chicagohh: Besides being a webmaster, I am still an internet user as well. And yes I DID stumble upon this spammer when I was looking for something. Who do you think you are to judge me?

europeforvisitors




msg:1343758
 3:37 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Besides being a webmaster, I am still an internet user as well.

Me, too. And I'm always amazed by the fact that so many Webmaster World members are unbothered when they have to dig through spam on SERPs to find relevant pages. :-)

adfree




msg:1343759
 4:19 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

"I love "snitching" on others. I do it whenever I encounter such sites. It makes me feel better."

If you are the one setting the policies and rules, own them, fine. If G asks you to help, fine. As long as G owns their rules and does not ask for help, I don't really see the point of spending your time with it.

You might cause a lot of counter reaction from folks who (sometimes) do not take this stuff so easy, this would cause you to suffer as well.

G makes (almost) all the money, they set up the rules, let them inforce the rules too. Who are we to do so? Do you re-program traffic lights because someone ran on red?

HughMungus




msg:1343760
 4:27 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Amazing how people love to snitch out others.

Yeah, it's great when advertisers drop out of the program or content/publisher ads because people break the rules.

Besides, reporting people is just another tool in the toolbox.

ownerrim




msg:1343761
 4:32 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

nobody likes digging through spam. but combatting spam and adsense tos violations is google's job. i wouldn't encourage adsense publishers to rat on other adsense publishers because it's the way of the weaselly rat. And as much as i hate spam, referral spam, scraping, popups, and deceptive redirects (not to mention poor writing, bad editing, and cold eggs), i hate rats even more. they're ugly, they smell bad, and tend to be very sneaky. and people who get a kick out of ratting are not to be trusted---not in high school, not in college, not at work, not anywhere.

alika




msg:1343762
 4:33 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

One other way to look at this:

Many people here makes money from Adsense (some makes a lot of money). They will do what they can to protect that well from drying up -- even if it means reporting to G violations they see. For them, they view it as their share to improve the program. Besides, it is called "feedback"

HughMungus




msg:1343763
 4:41 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

i hate rats even more.

So you think that if you're part of something that could be potentially ruined or comprimised by others, you shouldn't say anything because you're afraid of becoming a "rat"? Who, exactly, in your life is going to know or care that you reported someone?

hunderdown




msg:1343764
 5:31 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

It's the job of the police to stop drunk or dangerous drivers, but if I see someone going down the highway at 100 miles an hour, weaving in and out of lanes, I just might pull out my cellphone and dial 911.

I guess that makes me a rat.

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