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Adsense & IE6
toolkit

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Msg#: 33 posted 9:13 am on Jun 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm having severe problems when trying to view any website that displays Adsense ads. The javascript just doesn't seem to want to load, and that means that most of the time the page's content isn't completely displayed. I'm using IE version 6.0.2600.0000IC on Windows 98SE.

Anyone else experiencing this problem?

 

ThatAdamGuy

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Msg#: 33 posted 11:22 am on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

How weird! And how unpleasant that my own non-google text ad protrudes of the side of the page <sigh>.

Hmm... I believe I checked my pages against IE 6 and NS 7, but apparently not IE 5. But I digress. And thanks for the heads-up.

I believe my dad is still using IE 5. I'll ask if he's able to see my Google Ads. Hmm.

saoi_jp

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 3:42 pm on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's got something to do with the computer and IE installation. On my office and home computers, I'm seeing different results. Both are win98, both have IE6, both are fanatically updated. On one, I see all the problems reported -- pages hang either below the AdSense or at the start of the table containing AdSense. OR the page renders with a blank area for the AdSense. I see this on many different sites, not just my own.

On the other computer, everything looks fine.

So there's an issue, but I cannot tell you the reason for it.

jrobbio

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 4:40 pm on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I haven't had the problem in IE 6 2800 as of yet, but my friend has (not sure if it was 2600 or 2800). He solved it by closing all browser windows, deleting cookies and cache. I can't imagine all the IE visitors coming to websites giving it a second thought thinking it is broken in some way, which categorically it is.

Rob

james007

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Msg#: 33 posted 7:32 pm on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

We hve a few people posting things like...

Has anyone else had a strange problem with getting stuck in a "Google loop" (best description I can think of).

I've had this a few times recently when using the main Google search page, and now it's started happening on (my site), I think ever since the Google Ads came along.

What happens is, you do a Google search, then click on a link on the results page, or enter a completely different address in the browser address box and all you get is a google-style error message saying the page "cannot be found on this server". But it then says that about the next page you try. This continues for a random number of attempts, but if I put in, for example: (a regular favourite) it'll take me to the Google News page instead. It's as if it has decided only to look at the Google server and not at the rest of the web.

Today I've had several bursts of this when trying to view threads on (my site). All ok to the point where the topics are listed, but click on a topic and all I get is the google error message.

This is driving me google. Does anyone recognise what I'm describing?

I wonder if this is the same issue, or a different one?

upside

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 11:38 pm on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

james007, does your page try to break out of frames? When I added adsense onto a site that uses a frame busting javascript I had trouble. This is the js I was using:

if(parent.frames.length>0){parent.location.href=location.href;}

Adsense writes an iframe to the page and my script was getting executed after the adsense code. Obviously, at that point parent.frames.length will be greater than 0 and the page will reload...indefinitely. My adsense impressions were quite high and the clickthroughs very low. :P

saoi_jp

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 9:01 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yesterday, I wrote:
On my office and home computers, I'm seeing different results. Both are win98, both have IE6, both are fanatically updated. On one, I see all the problems reported... On the other computer, everything looks fine.

Just an update: Today, things look fine. Have others in this thread noticed this, too? It seems that Google has fixed it. Can anyone confirm this?

bird

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 9:50 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

if(parent.frames.length>0){parent.location.href=location.href;}

I use this without a problem:

function l(){
if(parent.location&&parent.location!=window.location){
top.location=window.location;}}
window.onload=l;

toolkit

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 10:08 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I agree saoi_jp, they've made some changes to the javascript (looks like some error checking) and I can see the ads fine now. Hurrah!

james007

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 8:17 pm on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

james007, does your page try to break out of frames?
Nope.
tszyn

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 1:31 pm on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

That's right, I got a message from Google saying they'd fixed the problem. The JavaScript code hasn't changed a bit, so I'm guessing it was a problem with HTTP headers.
Anyway, everything seems to be okay now.

Tom

tszyn

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Msg#: 33 posted 1:36 pm on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Correction: I've just checked and it still hangs...

tszyn

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Msg#: 33 posted 10:06 am on Jul 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

OK, I think I've got it. Now it only hangs when show_ads.js is not in the browser cache (and has to be fetched from googlesyndication.com), but the HTML page is in the cache.

Formerly it used to hang whenever show_ads.js had to be downloaded from googlesyndication.com, regardless of whether the HTML page was in the cache or not.

Tom

jesserud

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Msg#: 33 posted 2:41 am on Jul 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think it's pretty lame that AdSense requires you to include a remote script. It adds substantially to total page load time, and more importantly, to the time until any content below the iframe can appear. And that's when IE's cache isn't being wonky. (Because the script uses document.write, it cannot be marked as deferrable).

The only interesting things the script does are:
* grab the URL of the page (or the frameset when the iframe is loaded inside a frame) to put in the url= parameter
* add random=[some random string], probably to defeat caching

Google should have given webmasters INLINE scripts to paste, with url-options such as "safe" and "language" hard-coded into each script. The inline script would not have to be much longer than what you currently have to paste -- most of it would be the static parts of the iframe URL, not logic.

(For reference, the remote script AdSense makes you load is [pagead2.googlesyndication.com...] .)

ThatAdamGuy

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Msg#: 33 posted 2:47 am on Jul 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Okay, I'm confused.

I've noticed (with irritation) that it does sometimes take 3-5 seconds for the ads to load. However, in the meantime, the entire rest of my page has loaded around it.

What are others doing differently that prevents this more-desireable behavior?

jesserud

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 3:15 am on Jul 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

The code Google gives you loads a script from pageads2.googlesyndication.com. While this script is loading, stuff below the ad can't be displayed. Once the script loads, it causes an iframe to be loaded. While the iframe is being loaded, stuff below the ad can be displayed. So the problem is the remote script, not the remote iframe.

chiyo

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Msg#: 33 posted 3:36 am on Jul 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

personally i dont find a problem with this behaviour. If indded, the iframe loading caused other content to have to wait for it to load, I WOULD have a problem.

At the moment readers get first what they asked for - the content of the page - the ads can come second. Logically, the content may interest them enough in the ads they will click on an ad!

Webdiva

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 33 posted 11:45 am on Jul 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm also still having problems with pages completely hanging while AdSense ads are being loaded. As a matter of fact, its worse then before whatever fix has been put into place. I am forced to remove AdSense from my site altogether. Site visitors can't click on ads when they can't even see any of my pages.

Bummer. I think I would do pretty well with Adsense. Itís odd that more people aren't experiencing this problem. It must be a combination of things thatís only affecting a few sites.

Dave_Hawley



 
Msg#: 33 posted 9:36 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am also having this horrible 'hang' problem with AdSense. I'm now showing the ads inside an iFrame set to the same size. My hope is that if the ad doesn't load, the rest of the page should.

fingers crossed!

Dave

Dave_Hawley



 
Msg#: 33 posted 10:02 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Anyone know of a legit way to have clicked links open in a new window? spoon-fed instructions please!

chiyo

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Msg#: 33 posted 10:09 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Webdiva and Dave Hawley, are you testing over various computers with diff OS/broswer versions or is it just occuring in your own personal webstation?

I agree it's no good if any pages hang or the user gets their experience disrupted, but it may be only a very small minority that is having the problem and you may be two of them. In that case, it may be too early to take the code off altogether, but not too late to change the config of your own machines.

Or do you think there may be some conflict in your existing coding and the adsense js.. like doc types, other scripts etc?

We havent had complaints yet and it works OK in all configs ive viewed it in.

Dave_Hawley



 
Msg#: 33 posted 8:27 am on Jul 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi chiyo

I have tested this on 3 different PC's and they all lock up intermittently for no apparent reason.

RE: Or do you think there may be some conflict in your existing coding and the adsense js.. like doc types, other scripts etc?

I thought the same thing, so I put the banners on a totally clean page and pulled them in via a iframe. This did stop the whole page from not downloading, but the page coming inside the iframe still locked up at times.

From reading this thread it would appear others have had the same problems. I got a reply from Google that simply asked me my OS and settings. This irks me as it is pretty obvious that, while I can change my setting, I have no control over the other 3 billion systems out there!

I also bet that when google bot visits, it would skip the pages that it's OWN script is locking up.

Dave

chiyo

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Msg#: 33 posted 9:17 am on Jul 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the further detail Dave.

Yes it should be a concern.

I guess what google is doing by asking for your OS and config is to add it to a list, replicating the problems in all cases reported and trying to fix the code as a result so it works on as many configs as humanly possible.

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 33 posted 1:44 pm on Jul 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Anyone know of a legit way to have clicked links open in a new window? spoon-fed instructions please!

There is no legit way to have clicked links open in a new window. You'd need to tamper with the AdSense code, and that would violate the TOS.

Dave_Hawley



 
Msg#: 33 posted 4:11 am on Jul 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

I thought as much :(

I have seen may other sites do so though, eg Tucows etc.

Dave

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 33 posted 6:17 am on Jul 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have seen may other sites do so though, eg Tucows etc.

You may be seeing Google AdWord banners, skyscrapers, or leaderboards that are being served by ad networks such as Tribal Fusion or FastClick. They look very similar to AdSense ads except for not having the "Ads by Google" link at the bottom.

Also, Google will customize a program for sites with at least 20 million impressions a day, and such customization might include having the links open in new windows, taking off the "Ads by Google," or changing the color scheme.

Dave_Hawley



 
Msg#: 33 posted 7:44 am on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Good news! Google has replied with an email to say they have fixed the problem. I will leave them inside the frame for another week to be sure.

It is just so good to actually get a human email from a web business as big as Google. They deserve to be number 1 in my book.

Dave

Dave_Hawley



 
Msg#: 33 posted 8:14 am on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Oh dear! It seems like the problem still occurs :o(

Dave

aliqui

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Msg#: 33 posted 1:05 am on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

- I can't see adsense ads from my sites using IE6. I can see those same
ads when I am using Opera browser. So the ads are there.

- I can see adsense ads in other sites when using the same IE6.

- My partner couldn't see ads in my sites using her IE6.

- Using IE6, we both see the adssense ads, she installed on her site.

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