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msg:1443058
 4:37 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I was looking for new ways to maximize my revenue and i was accepted by Vibrant Media for InteliTXT implementation, but i've checked the Adsense TOS ans i've decided to contact google's support.


Competitive Ads
We do not permit AdWords ads to be published on web pages that also contain what could be considered competing ads. This would include all content-targeted ads as well as text-based ads. Text-based ads, for this situation, can be loosely defined as ads that mimic AdWords ads or appear to be associated with AdWords ads on your site. We do allow affiliate or limited-text links.


<paraphrased email>Recently we have had the opportunity to display IntelliTXT ads provided by Vibrant Media. Before implementing, I would like to know whether Google considers this a content targeted ad.</paraphrased>

Google Reply:


<paraphrased email>Thank you for requesting clarification of the competitive ad policy. We want to maintain integrity with our Adwords and AdSense program, and this includes limiting the other types of ads publishers can display on the same page as AdSense.

Specifically, we do not permit our ads to be published on pages that also display competing ads. This includes all content-targeted and text-based ads, including the
types of commercial links you described
. </paraphrased>

The problem is that MANY sites are using both systems and google doesnt seems to see that.

Me not happy about this!

[edited by: Jenstar at 5:10 pm (utc) on June 13, 2004]
[edit reason] No direct email quotes, as per TOS [/edit]

 

level80




msg:1443059
 5:05 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Solution:-

Tell Google about the sites that are seemingly in contravention of their policies. They will probably send an email to the site owners who will then decide whether to go for Google or the competing ads.

Alternatively point it out to the site owner themselves (or both). Actually doing something rather than just moaning about it results in better outcomes IMHO.

nealw




msg:1443060
 7:01 pm on Jun 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Solution:-
Tell Google about the sites that are seemingly in contravention of their policies. They will probably send an email to the site owners who will then decide whether to go for Google or the competing ads.

Alternatively point it out to the site owner themselves (or both). Actually doing something rather than just moaning about it results in better outcomes IMHO.

Why not just spend your time building your own business and increasing your own revenue instead of worrying about what someone else is doing or not doing.

I know what my time is worth and I would be taking a pay cut to become a troubleshooter for Google. Other than perhaps "feeling" better there is no business upside in spending your time in this manner. Write 5 or 10 new pages of content for your site instead. This activity WILL make you more money.

Just my two cents...

Sanenet




msg:1443061
 7:06 pm on Jun 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Specifically, we do not permit our ads to be published on pages that also display competing ads

So, don't display them on the same pages together. One page IntelliTXT, the next Adsense.

whizkiddo




msg:1443062
 5:09 am on Jul 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Most of my competitors are doing it, whether unknowingly or not i something that I cannot say. I have no intention of squealing to Google since I think Vibrant ads are something different then adsense. Overture ads might be considered direct competition. However since Google specifically refused, there can be no option for us.

Regarding putting adsense on one page and vibrant on the other, remember that your collections would at least increase by 50% were you permitted to do both.

Quesion is, should I take a risk by putting both and assuming that adsense will warn me off about this. I would respond within 12 hours to take out the competition or Adsense. But I think first I will try vibrant on some non adsense pages to see if its worth the risk.

Mentat, did you use vibrant? Are the results impressive as compared to adsense?

foxtunes




msg:1443063
 9:43 am on Jul 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Vibrant media are new to me, I'll go and check them out.

HughMungus




msg:1443064
 7:31 pm on Aug 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why not just spend your time building your own business and increasing your own revenue instead of worrying about what someone else is doing or not doing.

Because it's unfair competition.

blairsp




msg:1443065
 7:35 pm on Aug 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Vibrant media are new to me

I have been using them for some time via Burst(in fact i think I was probably one of the first to adopt it. Difficult to give you an opinion as we may be comparing apples with oranges. Also, before someone else points it out, this is an adsense board and we shouldn't be discussing alternative programs.

Sticky me if you have specific question about intellitext/vibrant media

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