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Turning off adsense until you are big enough
zulufox




msg:1356336
 8:45 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I believe that atleast 50% of the people who post about getting kicked out of adsense didn't click their own ads... maybe 25% :)

The best and obvious reasoning is that google (logically) feels its cheaper to cancel low end accounts with suspicious activity instead of investigating.

Honestly, I live in perpetual fear that some kid is gonna click 1000 times on an ad and get me removed from the program permently.

I earn only $XX a month from adsense, but my site is very very new and hopefully in 6 months will start to earn some REAL revenue.

By December I hope to go from the under 100 articles I have now to over 600 articles.

I have a job (for a college student) so the $30 a month for hosting (my only cost) is not really a big deal.

My question is this:

Would it be bettter/safer for me just to turn off my adsense ads until my site is large enough and popular enough to not be so quickly removed from the google program? and if so, what is a good level of traffic to turn if back on again?

[edited by: zulufox at 9:59 pm (utc) on May 10, 2004]

 

irock




msg:1356337
 9:15 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

This is what I've been thinking all along. I think you maybe right. If your site is under investigation, I think they will definitely take account into your revenue forecast to see if your site is still worthwhile to stay.

So, yes, I think you should turn it off until you have about 3000 to 5000 days...

Retalin




msg:1356338
 9:37 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

First post here, so bear with me but I wanted to touch on the topic of "perpetual fear".

My site pushes in excess of $XX,XXX.xx per month. I live in this perpetual fear like you cannot believe. The way adsense has taken off on my site blew my mind. We do roughly 750k - 1M hits per month, and I have considered quiting my job and living off of adsense, but its that fear... at any time Google can say *cya*... so yes, I would turn it off. But keep in mind it can be very rewarding :)

irock




msg:1356339
 9:48 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wow, you only do 750k page view a month and you get 5 digit revenue monthly? I'm only close to mid-4 digit with 600k. You are not in computer stuff, are you?

FromRocky




msg:1356340
 9:58 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

He just needs a CPM of $14 to hit that 5-digit mark! Hope I have 1E6 PIM a month.

surfer67




msg:1356341
 1:16 am on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

I used to run adsense on both my high traffic and low traffic site. Fear of termination caused me to "reduce the risk" of termination by removing adsense from my new low traffic site. I figured it wasn't worth the risk of running adsense on the low earning low traffic site for a few extra dollars a month.

loanuniverse




msg:1356342
 2:03 am on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

I only have one thing to add.... "The beer is on Retalin"

valley




msg:1356343
 7:10 am on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Removing Adsense on your low traffic sites is a good logical choice.

Sunflux




msg:1356344
 9:21 am on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

^^ Earnings above

Oh man, I'm in the wrong field.

nyet




msg:1356345
 12:08 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

if you are pushing $XX,XXX per month or $XXX,XXX annually, I think you have little to fear that you will be dropped for all but the most blatant fraud.

adfree




msg:1356346
 12:35 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Right, and G understands that you need to test AdSense as well on fresh sites, especially in development phases prior to nailing down the final navigation and structure, layout.

If turning over tens of thousands for G in publishing AS ads any departure in much smaller scale on that large account will be considered development bumps, I am sure.

Or should I be worried?

ganeshcp




msg:1356347
 12:38 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

hmmmmm juz be careful not get ur adsense account terminated for NO activity!

adfree




msg:1356348
 1:11 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Good point ganeshcp!

zulufox




msg:1356349
 1:20 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wait... do they termainate your account if you DONT make money?

So I'm dammed if I do, dammed if I dont?

Retalin




msg:1356350
 2:39 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Sorry for the confusion, I meant per day... 750k - 1M

Brett_Tabke




msg:1356351
 2:42 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

> believe that atleast 50% of the people who post about getting kicked out of adsense

work for google...

loanuniverse




msg:1356352
 2:48 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

work for google...

That is funny and devious at the same time.

novice




msg:1356353
 2:55 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

"> believe that atleast 50% of the people who post about getting kicked out of adsense
work for google..."

Wonder if Google Guy was one of them ;)

dvduval




msg:1356354
 3:01 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

work for Google

I think I just figured out the ...

3 recent threads lost in this forum.

Maybe Google was feeling guilty that those threads were getting too many clicks?

skippy




msg:1356355
 4:11 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Maybe Google was feeling guilty that those threads were getting too many clicks?

They canít be feeling too guilty my CTR tanked again yesterday along with earnings :(

irock




msg:1356356
 6:15 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Sorry for the confusion, I meant per day... 750k - 1M

If my math is right, this daily traffic translates to 22.5 to 30 million page views per month. Why don't you just get out of here and sign up as a premium publisher. Your traffic is above the min. traffic requirement.

And I doubt Google would want to kick a guy that delivers 1M ads a day... it's not just the revenue you generate for Google. It's 1M eye views on Google brand.

Retalin




msg:1356357
 6:19 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

I thought about it, but why do I need to? Its doing great! Kind of the 'if it aint broke dont fix it' mentality.

mquarles




msg:1356358
 6:31 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

if you are pushing $XX,XXX per month or $XXX,XXX annually, I think you have little to fear that you will be dropped for all but the most blatant fraud.

Like others, I am totally paranoid about getting the boot. I have carefully read the TOS and think I am compliant, but the catch-all broad language is a license to ban anyone for almost no reason (not that I disagree with this, as I would also have language like that if I were Google).

Since those who have been booted probably aren't concerned with violating TOS by reporting numbers, does anyone know of sites doing good revenue that have been booted? Let's say at least $x,**** per month, and especially $xx,xxx per month.

MQ

zulufox




msg:1356359
 7:15 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thats a interesting idea.

I wonder what kinds of sites these people had. For example they would of had some crappy keyword filled site for displaying ebay listings... I'm sure google would lift a finger to investigate that.

Example:

Buy Widgets, WidgetGuide.com is the widgeting widget in the widget world, welcome and remember to clean widgets, duct widgets, slice and dice widgets and buy widgets, buying widgets.

<Adsense Ad>

Widgeting is the best widget for the new widgeter 101. Widget. WIDGET.


zulufox




msg:1356360
 10:04 pm on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

So should I turn it off?

freitasm




msg:1356361
 2:02 am on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I started with AdSense when my site was serving 2000 pages daily, around July'03. Since then the site has changed and now it serves around 75,000 page views a day, with a couple of days peaking at 100,000. These numbers are based on monthly averages and figures for the last quarter (Q1 04).

AdSense served me well, and continues to do so. I'd stick with it. Of course YMMV.

zulufox




msg:1356362
 3:38 am on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks

dvduval




msg:1356363
 3:51 am on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I jumped on the Adsense bandwagon a little late...just started last month. I'm still learning how to display ads without bothering my loyal visitors. I'm only averaging about 700 page views per day on the pages that have adsense. I could certainly increase that number.

I almost feel like I should increase that number (by displaying the ad on more homepages, not just subpages) so that I will be "big enough". I was previously trying to be strategic, hoping to place the ads on pages that wouldn't bother people as much yet draw a decent response. Now I'm wondering if I should maybe place the ads at the bottom of some of my home pages, so that I will be "big enough".

HellaCooL




msg:1356364
 6:18 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well does it really matter if some of my websites are having low traffic.
I donít make that much on Adsense, XXX per month, and I have ads on 4 of my websites. Well out of those four, two are new and hardly getting any traffic so almost all revenue comes from two older websites.
Could Google drop me even though my account makes XXX per month, because of the two websites doing bad? I mean my account overall does well.

zulufox




msg:1356365
 8:04 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

First, google does not drop you because you are not making money... they are just much less likely to try to investigate the suspicious activity before terminating your account.

Second, I personally believe that if you are making $10000 a day on one site, they will do some serious investigating before terminating your account for suspicious activitiy on your second unpopular site.

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