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Turning off adsense until you are big enough

 8:45 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I believe that atleast 50% of the people who post about getting kicked out of adsense didn't click their own ads... maybe 25% :)

The best and obvious reasoning is that google (logically) feels its cheaper to cancel low end accounts with suspicious activity instead of investigating.

Honestly, I live in perpetual fear that some kid is gonna click 1000 times on an ad and get me removed from the program permently.

I earn only $XX a month from adsense, but my site is very very new and hopefully in 6 months will start to earn some REAL revenue.

By December I hope to go from the under 100 articles I have now to over 600 articles.

I have a job (for a college student) so the $30 a month for hosting (my only cost) is not really a big deal.

My question is this:

Would it be bettter/safer for me just to turn off my adsense ads until my site is large enough and popular enough to not be so quickly removed from the google program? and if so, what is a good level of traffic to turn if back on again?

[edited by: zulufox at 9:59 pm (utc) on May 10, 2004]



 9:05 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Now you're really scaring me. I have just one site.. started adsense 3 months ago and am doubling revenue and visitors each month by trying to write a good content page every day (programming examples). I'm starting to look forward to not having to do my real job 15 hours per day with adense revenues... but I guess I can't count on that.


 9:16 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Removing Adsense on your low traffic sites is a good logical choice.

I'd really like to hear more explaination on this. Is Google even looking at each of your sites or does it just look at your overall account?


 9:47 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't know if I agree with this theory.

I have new sites whose CTR and visitors fluctuate wildly over the course of a month - but since I am using adsense on XX sites, I imagine the "big picture" comes into view.

Its not my fault if a site with 30 visitors per day has a 46% CTR (or whatever), as long as the content and site adhere to the Adsense guide lines.

Lots of the sites that resulted in "i got banned for fraudulent clicks" posts that I was able to see were purposely manipulating the Adsense keyword targeting in manner that violated TOS.

Fraudulent clicks doesn't necessarily mean that the webmaster clicked on his own adverts - it can also mean that the site violated the TOS in a such a way that the advertisers were defrauded.


* "CLICK ON THESE" by your ads.

* otherwise encouraging the visitors to click on your ads. there was an instance, one of the very first "kicked out" posts where the owner had posted things like "i hope everyone remembers to help support the forum by clicking on those adsense ads"

* keyword stuffing non-related phrases on the page, or otherwise manipulating adsense to influence the type of ads

* another guy got kicked because his offsite links opened a frameset with Adsense ad had populated the text in the frame with $XX keywords that no one could see except G.

Just don't try to game the system, and you should be fine. If your site only makes $.30 a day, consider:

- creating a new site with quality (lucrative) content

- increasing the traffic to your site through additional links, PPC, etc.

- look for an alternative to Adsense.


 11:17 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Keep in mind that the idea that Google is more likely to boot small sites than large ones is completely unsubstantiated.

It's just something someone suggested here and that some folks think might be likely.

It is certainly not official Google policy, nor have I ever seen anything from Google that suggests it might be the case.


 11:30 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Keep in mind that the idea that Google is more likely to boot small sites than large ones is completely unsubstantiated.

From a purely statistical standpoint, it CAN be substantiated that it would be easier for fraudelent clicks to represent a higher percentage of clicks, than on a higher volume site.

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