| 11:02 pm on Apr 23, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|BTW, have anyone experienced a major decrease in EPC just before this accident? |
Yeah, the two days (Tuesday and Wednesday) were *really* poor for me.
| 12:14 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Just think what the CEO and Top Google Management were saying today. Larry: “My stats have not updated for hours, I’m down 2 million, what’s going on?” “Can I get direct deposit on that this month?”
--Always good to take a step back and smile.
| 12:30 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I went to my site and see pretty much the same as you guys mentioned. I am also seeing a lot of the new graphical psa's.
I hadn't been on my site today so didn't notice the problem until I saw this thread, but earnings are certainly way down on the norm for the day.
| 12:46 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
My ads are back to normal. Lost 50% revenue...
| 12:49 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
It's probably not advisable to have 50% of your business staked on a company that's thinking about going public and making a significant amount of changes almost daily.
| 1:29 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I'm just stating a fact. I'm not saying I'm gonna rely on google forever. I have to rely on it at this moment but I'm working on more projects to diversity from AdSense. Talking about "the company", what are you gonna do about it? They bring most of the traffic at this time....
| 1:46 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Same here, and the timing for me couldn't be worse considering that I run an NFL Draft related website (and the draft is tomorrow, making this a peak traffic week for me). Arrrgh...
| 2:14 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
The question now is, will Google do anything to compensate. Not all advertising/affiliate programs are the same. Most will just shrug, and say, "So sorry, it hurt us as well - move along, and have a nice day".
Some, and often times the very best ones will compensate affiliates based on the average earnings they would have received during the down time. I can surely say that those programs that do offer this will win the loyalty of their affiliates like almost no other gesture can.
A certain affiliate program I have worked with for some time actually went a step further, even compensating affiliates for server down time as a result of a natural disaster (let alone a programming glitch or hardware failure).
Nevertheless, I am about 99% sure this will be a "So sorry..." from Google.
| 5:34 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I think this question has been asked before... but I still haven't got the answer to this million dollar question.
Does 'Page Impression' recorded by Google also include PSAs? If not, then that really explain the huge drop of ad impressions as seen this day when a large number of PSAs are shown.
| 7:37 am on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I haven't read this whole thread.... but I'm not seeing PSAs on any of our sites, yesterday's CTR was normal to high (other things considered) and yesterday's earnings were on target.
| 12:59 pm on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
My understanding was that AdSense impressions as reported by Google *do* include PSA/Alt. Ad impressions. Reported clicks however do *not* include PSA/Alt. Ads.
Reported impressions for my sites yesterday 4/23 are down about 20% from my own numbers, vs. about 1-2% variation on a typical day. My numbers do not include spiders.
Hopefully Google will make an adjustment in the next 48 hours.
| 6:40 pm on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
my Adsense paying ads converted to PSA's by a factor or 85% - 90%.
My site does 50K uniques per months; 400K page views; have serious traffic and PR; updated every 12 hours
[ not a "this is my cat Fluffy" site, ] crawled every 48 hours by googlebot;
I e-mailed the adsense people and they said please be patient. [ Yeah be patient while my revenue has imploded like the stellar material in the center of a black hole ].
I am now experimenting with **** - a soon to be launched adsense alternative until they straighten out the glitch.
It seems that many of the adsense advertisers are also buying ****.
The ads seem to be targeted to a similar degree of precision and accuracy although the **** rep (yes a real live person)claims it will be more highly targeted and they promise a 60/40 split off the top (60% to the webmaster)
They claim their technology uses the same platform that Israeli intelligence uses to gather and integrate large amounts of data into orderly buckets.
They claim that their crawling methods will yield better ctr.
Will keep you posted.
[edited by: keypclkn at 9:29 pm (utc) on April 24, 2004]
| 8:42 pm on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
PSA's still showing 90% of the time on my site. Are they still having issues?
| 8:48 pm on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
not showing on mine anymore.
| 9:57 pm on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
still mucho psa's.
| 10:39 pm on Apr 24, 2004 (gmt 0)|
| 1:30 pm on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Still 90% PSA's here in Arizona
| 1:18 am on Apr 27, 2004 (gmt 0)|
My main site has been getting a few of those big, ugly gray PSA ads today for the first time ever.
Funny thing is - I have my code set to just show a color instead of PSAs. I think something is VERY broken as targeting has also been acting weird, like it's being switched off and on like a bad electrical connection.
| 1:25 am on Apr 27, 2004 (gmt 0)|
It may not be just on you site, icedowl.
I currently see PSAs everywhere...
Update: Looks like it was a temporary glitch that was showing PSAs on several sites. Things seem to be back to normal again...
| 3:00 am on Apr 27, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Face it ... It appears as though Google changed their algo for certain types of Adwords ... pharma words are one example, where they just are not delivering consistent revenue producing ads.
Other keywords no change...
I think Google stinks up the place, by not being honest about what they are doing with theirpublishers.
If anyone has found a good replacement for Google, I'd sure like to know who it is. People tattoe Harley Davidson on their bodys... now that's product loyalty.
Google will soon find out they have no loyalty out there,
just let MSN or Yahoo offer a product in competition with Adsense...
Can you say BIG SUCKING SOUND?
That's 80 percent of their producers leaving.
| 3:52 am on Apr 27, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I don't mean to sound negative but loyalty? Loyalty is to whomever can provide the most $$ to the publisher, based on how stable that publisher feels the ad service is.
If someone has something better than AdSense, then it would be strictly a business decision to move to them. And then back again, if things were better at AdSense.
I'm probably not alone in remembering the DOT DOOM crisis a year or so ago where there was not anything the average to small website could put on that would make them any revenue. I'm probably in the larger average size in my traffic and am making a surprising amount of revenue from the service. It appears to be off one day, on again another, really on for a day or three, really off for similar.. I'd have to go at least six months to see how it goes.. but bottom line to what I'm saying..
If there's something better than AS, make the move, it's not personal, I doubt they would see it that way.
| 5:29 am on Apr 27, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|Funny thing is - I have my code set to just show a color instead of PSAs. |
My bad, I misspoke. I had made a switch from a tower to a leaderboard earlier and in my haste I failed to set the color in the code.
| 2:34 am on Apr 28, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Day 6 NY GMT-5
All important pages infected with JUMBO PSA's; have seen some skinny 5 ad skyscrapers.
| 3:35 am on Apr 28, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I'm not seeing psa's. Just more screwed up
targeting AGAIN. For a week and a half they
had it right. Now, back to the same weirdly
off-target crud again. It's just amazing,
| 1:04 pm on Apr 28, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Exactly the same here ownerrim. I get adsense to serve up my own banners instead of the PSAs, but some of my pages which are showing normal ads are showing badly interpreted ads.
They've not been too bad for the past month, but now they're not really that relevent. Definitely not PSAs though.
| 3:07 pm on Apr 28, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Well, it's getting to the point now where I am
literally afraid to look at my site because
seeing ads that have absolutely nothing to
do with my content may ruin my dinner, my day,
or give me google-inflicted nightmares. What
I have noticed with adsense and google in general
is that they can never leave something alone when
it is actually working. They have to break it.
Then fix it, then break it again. It's maddening.
I really wonder--if they can't keep adsense from
going screwy all the time and disaffecting their
publishers, how are they going to keep public
| 3:14 pm on Apr 28, 2004 (gmt 0)|
For sure, Google counts PSAs in their "impressions" figure (evidence based proof).
I recall from the sign on materials they do not count PSA clickthroughs in their click, but I may be mistaken.
Every page my clients had that went to PSA's needed to be replaced to get rid of the PSAs. For lack of patience, in some cases new locations were needed since the PSA flag stuck to the URI for more than 2 days.
| 3:45 pm on Apr 28, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I'm not seeing PSA's on any of my sites...In fact I buried my highest day by over 50% more yesterday and today looks like it might do the same. Crazy how it fluctuates.
| 12:47 am on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
| 2:15 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Has anyone received a reply from Google about this? I wrote 5 days ago and have not received a reply yet.
| 2:23 pm on Apr 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
When you wrote them, how did you phrase it?
Just curious. Did you mention just the psa
issue or did you also mention poor targeting?
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