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Delay with ads matching new content
Ads showing on new pages do not match
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msg:1356609
 9:57 am on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

When I create a new page with new content the ads do not match the content. I am not expecting this to be an instant process, but the delay seems to be around two days or so.

Normally we like to send out a email newsletter just after we have up loaded new content, but the problem is the new content (ie the pages people are going to look at) do not have ads that match properly. This decreases the click throughs and thus the value of the advertising space.

Is anyone else finding this a problem?

Any ideas on a solution?

 

chiyo




msg:1356610
 10:01 am on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nope this is normal practice from what ive seen on our site. Thats not to say it may have a different spidering shedule for diff sites maybe based on updating likelihood, the amount of revenue or hits it is returning etc etc.

Only suggestion is to make sure you dont put the page up live until you have completed it - (eg. dont test it live as you write or construct it) That way the spider gets all of what you intended the first time.

Other observation, where there is limited info, it sometimes seems to take into account keywords in the URL or what you have already on the home page. Who knows it may even take into account anchor text!

Happy experimenting!

jFresh




msg:1356611
 1:08 am on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Google crawls pages for new content variably, and it can run between 1 and 3 weeks between crawls. If you put new content on the page, don't expect the ads to immediately switch to the new content.

If you put the content on a *new* page, and don't place the ads on the page until you have all the content on it, then the ads should be targeted to the content on the page.

jrstark




msg:1356612
 2:15 am on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

How different is the content from other pages? I've got 1-2 dozen ads that are served on most pages. Just put up a new page, and it is showing some of the usual ads. These are targetted to my site as a whole.

Visit Thailand




msg:1356613
 2:24 am on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Google says somewhere but again can no longer find it that they can ad targetted ads within 30 minutes. I have seen it happen faster than that i.e. within minutes and other days such as yesterday it took around 10 hours.

I load my pages and then visit each one to ensure that it is OK and has uploaded properly.

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msg:1356614
 2:50 am on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

There are targeted ads appearing immediately, but they are not well targeted.

For example on a page about using broadband internet to promote Australia to the Japanese, there are still ads for kimonos showing.

Now we do have many articles on kimonos on the site, but it does not really relate to this page.

chiyo




msg:1356615
 2:56 am on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

hi what's up.

your problem may well be that there is just not enough targeted inventory for those pages. - And maybe mediapartners got desparate and looked for contextual stuff from other parts of your site.

We know ourselves that PPC does not yet attract a lot of very niche advertisers yet, as when we advertise our own consulting services in Adwords, we almost have nil competition. i think this will change but in the meantime im happy to deliver kimono ads than nothing!

There's only a few serious Japanese marketing English language sites and services that use online advertising, let alone PPC - as we speak I could count them on the fingers of one hand

Similarly our info site has pages on Japanese, korean and chinese business practices and sometimes they often have "business" type ads but there are many kimono, japanese art, type ads. Peronally it does not worry me at all, as i think it is 1) likely that people interested in Japanese business may also be interested in Japanese culture and be "Asiaphile" enough to be interested in buying those items in some cases and 2) some people may go those pages from Search engines, who may well indded be more interested in buying kimonoes.

Similalry, people interested in using broadband internet to promote Australia to the Japanese may also be redisposed to these ads if they have an interest in Japan and want to learn about their culture as an aid to making their boradband services better..

Heck if it advertised a sushi delivery service in Bangkok right now given how hungry i am, i might even be tempted to click myself! (or at least copy the link, delete the id info, and paste in the address bar ;))

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