| 8:05 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)|
how do you mean? I got a uni degree in comp and psych, ended up at an advertising firm, learned to SEO, realized I could make ... loads more doing SEO, did it.
I'd say that's pretty standard give or take a degree and an advertising firm.
| 8:06 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)|
but as a note, I would never drop my career to put up some bs info sites either.
that's just silly.
| 8:21 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)|
put the ads on there to simply cover the cost of web hosting
some people are lucky enough to see their ad revenues big enough to pay all the bills, and not just their hosting fees.
even luckier are those whose sites provide a diversified revenue stream (e.g. strong product sales, great affiliate earnings, content licensing, etc) with Adsense as the icing on a very delicious cake. why would you slave for a "career" when you can simply wait for Google to send you a check that's much bigger than the day job?
of course, those who are able to do this do not create "bs info sites"
| 8:24 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|just seems to easy |
slap up a few bs info sites
start raking in the money
a racket like this
As March Madness kicks off, it just seems too easy to slam a few balls through the hoop, get drafted by an NBA team and start raking in the money. Boy, why didn't I get into a racket like this.
| 8:32 pm on Mar 19, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|Adsense as the icing on a very delicious cake |
Ya, I'm not so sure you should fall into the mindset trap of thinking of Adsense as anything different than your other advertisements (affiliate programs, direct ads deals done over the phone, whichever)
targeted traffic makes money, no matter what style the ads are.
| 5:39 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I just do it to cover the hosting costs of my small site of technology related tutorials and misc. rubbish, which it does well :) Even leaves me with a bit over.
| 6:07 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)|
webjefe hit it on the nose. Some people treat this business as a "racket", but most people who are lucky enough to do this full-time are here because we earned it with brains and hard work, and maybe a little right-place-at-the-right-time kind of luck.
Personally I have been a professional programmer for 25 years (my first job was coding in APL - we should port THAT to the web, haha).
| 6:43 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Ahhh, the memories of hauling those punch cards around. Now I'm sitting in the patio with my laptop and wireless connection. :)
I don't think there is a typical ads man, or women for that matter.
| 6:45 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Oooh, it's going to turn into an 'In my day we used punch cards/switches/used our bare flesh to create electrical contacts' competition :)
| 6:56 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)|
i run a local non profit city information site and adsense is my sole way of getting money, besides a few souveniers we sell. I average about $100 dollars a week with my adsense.
| 7:26 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I have no other job, I am a business student.
I am have been very happy with adsense, more happy than I ever thought possible. I have put in many many hours into my info sites and i have been rewarded in return.
Good experiance in advertising and marketing for a student such as myself.
| 9:31 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)|
This might be a bit off topic, but I couldn't resist:
|I have been a professional programmer for 25 years |
|Ahhh, the memories of hauling those punch cards around. |
Those were the days, my friends ;-)
| 1:20 am on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|used our bare flesh to create electrical contacts' competition :) |
It was tough alright. ;)
| 8:32 am on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
So, how long did it take you guys before google ads/affiliate listings became a full-time gig and do you dare tell your neighbors,friends,peers what your doing?
| 2:16 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
¿What is your full time job TRG9?
| 4:30 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
The thing about AdSense is it really isn't about luck. It takes a large site with real content and solid traffic to see good money. Or lots of smaller sites.
Everyone earning significant amounts of money have a few things in common - good content and sizable traffic.
| 4:30 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
it took me about 3 monmths for my adsense to generate a good amount of money,
| 5:19 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|It takes a large site with real content and solid traffic to see good money. |
That is what I'd assumed. I get great traffic for my niche topic. But of course it's nothing next to topics that are of more general interest. So I don't expect to make a living on AdSense but I do get compensation for the time I put in on the sites. This is only possible because with AdSense I'm actually getting good targeted ads that my visitors are actually interested enough in to click on them. I also use Amazon as many of the books in my field are not available at local bookstores.
I'm wondering how well those quickly constructed sites with little on no content do. Do they do well at all, for a while or on a long term basis? How do they get their traffic? Through AdWords, serps, email spam, links?
I suspect most of the people making a living on AdSense have good solid content sites that were built up over time. Many were in existence before AdSense came along. But I do wonder about how the quickie ones do.
| 5:22 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I have a bunch of diverse "hobby" sites and combined they pay the hosting bill and not much more from AdSense (it is a dedicated beefy server though).
Since we are not allowed to share data, I can't tell where I fall for my hits/cpm/epc but I think I am on the lower side.
Lets just say a 1% CTR would be NICE!
| 6:14 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|I'm wondering how well those quickly constructed sites with little on no content do. Do they do well at all, for a while or on a long term basis? How do they get their traffic? Through AdWords, serps, email spam, links? |
It depends how much traffic they get. They can actually get a pretty high CTR because their content isn't that great so visitors look around and click on interesting ads.
For topics with high epc, the sites with no content can do well. They will have to be highly optimized to get the traffic though. From what I have seen they try to capture high epc traffic froma million obscure keywords to get a few hits a day. Rarely does a no content site rank highly for the high traffic terms.
IMO it is easier to build a solid content site with real info and optimize it than try to do some site made solely for adsense.
| 9:36 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|capture high epc traffic from a million obscure keywords |
Ahhh, now that makes sense with what I've seen.
| 12:03 am on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)|
The new economy has created a number of ’’professions’’ that you can do from your bedroom: Buying and selling stuff on ebay. Daytrading stocks. And lately: maintaining a website that generates revenue from Google Adsense.
Would I advice anyone to rely solely on any of these professions? No. Consider your personal and professional development and your need of social contact.
That said. I think Google Adsense that can provide an extra income that is worth the trouble if you have a website that has more than 50k visitors pr. month. (Which what I have.)
With it being worth the trouble I mean will cover my alternative cost (what I would have made using my time on my paying job instead) of setting up, getting into and fooling around with Adsense.
However should Adsense cover my alternative cost of me writing the website content, the revenue would have to be 8 times as high as it is now. (I actually bothered to calculate that. (Sorry – I can’t help it.))
| 12:18 am on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Not too smart to be full-time income dependent on adsense. You may be just a Google-dance away from an 80% cut in pay, at any time.
Much of the tech boom in the advertising industry was because so many eggs were in the web page banners basket. One day no one wanted to pay for impressions or really pay much for clicks, so alot of people lost their incomes.
I remember the spreadsheets that tracked keywords for banner ads for a company I worked with -- they spent over $1 million per month on that advertising alone.
Also keep in mind that AdSense is what, a year old? And barely has seen any competition yet? Geesh.. we don't even know how they make their money yet.
| 1:39 am on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)|
rraven asked <<¿What is your full time job TRG9?>>
I'm a contractor in the software development business developing primarily for financial institutions. One day about a year ago I came up with an idea for a website, got intrigued by some prelim. research, doddled around getting the website up, and then things got started. Without realizing it, I got sucked into this whole world of websites and webhosting and search engines and jockeying for position and now ad revenue. It's a nice little game to play on the side, I must admit. The knowledge and perspective I'm getting from being a web publisher rather than just a web consumer is tremendous. So, for now my hobby will just have to stay a hobby until maybe some day who knows and all of a sudden I'm one of those guys secretly making 10K a day on the side. That's a nice thought.