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boarderzone




msg:1430612
 10:47 pm on Mar 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi,

Our website <snip> has enjoyed a top five ranking with a search for "<widgets>"
basically since google began.

Several months ago we started running adsense on the site.

Now <site> appears to have vanished from google. I dont mean a drop in ranking I mean completely gone.

Does anyone have any idea what could be happening.

strangly though adsense is serving up ads under that keyword.

thanks

[edited by: Jenstar at 11:04 pm (utc) on Mar. 11, 2004]
[edit reason] No specifics please, as per TOS [/edit]

 

Chndru




msg:1430613
 10:57 pm on Mar 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

>I mean completely gone.
do a site: search, like this: (site:www.domain.com) there are pages indexed from your site.

Jenstar




msg:1430614
 11:08 pm on Mar 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

From the AdSense FAQ:

6. How does participation in this program affect my site's position in the Google search results?
Participating in Google AdSense does not affect your site's rank in Google search results. Google AdSense will not affect the search results we deliver. Google believes strongly in freedom of expression and therefore offers broad access to content across the web. Our search results are unbiased by our relationships with paying advertisers and publishers. We will continue to show search results according to our PageRank technology.

There is no relation between using AdSense (or Adwords) and a site being removed or penalized in the regular Google serps at all. If it was true, this forum would be filled with similar posts.

If you take a look in the Google News forum [webmasterworld.com] many others are experiencing what you are, and it is not related to the use of AdSense or Adwords.

[edited by: Jenstar at 11:09 pm (utc) on Mar. 11, 2004]

boarderzone




msg:1430615
 11:08 pm on Mar 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes..

But that is the only way to see reference to the site.

richmondsteve




msg:1430616
 11:11 pm on Mar 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

boarderzone, the perceived correlation is completely coincidental. Consider visiting the Google News forum to discover and discuss other possible reasons for what you're experiencing.

simonuk




msg:1430617
 12:29 am on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Since that "several months ago" there have been 2 major changes in Googles algo which affected tens of thousands of web sites.

Welcome to the Google World!

It has nothing to do with adsense and more to do with how the SE's view your site following the algo changes.

Simon.

gengar56




msg:1430618
 1:27 am on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Indeed, it has nothing to do with AdSense amd I do not think AdSense caused the site to vanish. You may want to look at other factors involved. It is probably intentional and part of the new algorithm changes as stated by others above.

valley




msg:1430619
 1:39 pm on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

As mentioned by others your problem is not related to AdSense but to the new way that Google now lists websites .
The changes started early in Dec.2003 ,in Jan 2004 Google 'freezed' the listings for a while and came back with a new ranking using an 'improved'algorithm .
Many sites that were listed within the top 10 are not even listed any longer, page ranking have also been affected.

steve40




msg:1430620
 2:08 pm on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi
I believe you may be right , on many websites when running adsense and when using adwords this may be the only time a human review may occur from Google so possibly they are using as some additional filter, if they do not like the site or spot issues re seo they pass the information over to other departments
just my 2 cents worth
steve

cornwall




msg:1430621
 2:16 pm on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

My guess would be that you have overstepped the spam filters on Google - nothing to do with AdSense

Your site still has a PR5 and the .co.nz version is still in for your main keywords. That site is a mirror of the dot com.

You have probably hit a penalty for closed loop links, or for mirror sites, rather than anything else.

On balance I would put my money on a mirror penalty

boarderzone




msg:1430622
 9:29 pm on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi Thanks for you input.

For 8 years now the .co.nz and the .com versions have existed together.

The .com is aliased to the .co.nz so they aren't mirored but both point to the same ip address.

Strangely when the .com version ceased to exist in google it looks like the .co.nz version is now ranked but obviously much lower.

I could only assume that this somehow was linked to our use of adsense.. but from what you are saying I guess not.

The important thing now is to find out
a/ Have we incurred some type of penalty or not?
b/ How do we reinstate the .com in google at least somewhere near where it should be ranked. ie top 5
c/ How do we stop the .co.nz from ranking instead.

Thnaks for you help

ChrisKud5




msg:1430623
 9:56 pm on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

I had a similar issue after the last update, i lost high rankings for many key words i used. Google traffic fell to about 1/5 previous levels.

Maybe you are experiancing a similar situation. Work on backlinks, and wait for the next update and maybe it will be good to you since you made google some money with adsense!

Good luck to all of us

TravelBug




msg:1430624
 10:47 pm on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

For what its worth folks.

January was a bumper month for me and Adsense. Since then accross about a dozen sites I have suffered a reduction in impressions and income of around 90%. This is in spite of the fact that all sites and pages are still in the index.

Its all a big mystery to me at present.

TravelBug

SlowMove




msg:1430625
 11:00 pm on Mar 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't know if this will help, but when G caches pages that use AdSense, nothing is cached from specific ads. It's just the same JavaScript that runs on all the other AdSense sponsoring sites.

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