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Video Ads should pay more
PalX

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Msg#: 14508 posted 12:05 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I donít know if you agree with me, but I think Video Ads should pay more, running a video on your site is not like having a text link or image banners, specially that they are click to pay video ads, someone watching the video and then clicking means he is interested in what he saw in the video, while many times people click on text ads without realizing what they are doing.

 

qkl1026

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Msg#: 14508 posted 2:31 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

i think so

loganz

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Msg#: 14508 posted 3:06 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

theres video ads? how do you get that?

moTi

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Msg#: 14508 posted 3:40 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

video ads are really ppc? how ridiculous! that contraticts to every marketing rule concerning ad perception.
note that image ads in comparison with text ads have a much higher benefit for the advertiser because of the additional visual impact on the user. needless to say that video ads achieve an even bigger involvement of the visitor distracting him from other contents.
so you don't have only the pure text message but also the branding factor which has absolutely to be paid for - independent of occuring clicks.
google must know that, that's laughable.

BeeDeeDubbleU

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Msg#: 14508 posted 7:29 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think Video Ads should pay more

Perhaps they do.

21_blue

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Msg#: 14508 posted 8:28 am on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

BDW, video ads don't pay any more - they compete with text and image ads in the same way.

Google suggest that you might earn more indirectly - because having image ads increases the competition.

I'm not so sure. On the one hand, advertisers will probably use video ads in place of what they did before (image ads) - ie: no change. On the other, if they have spent the time/money developing image ads they may be prepared to bid a high EPC.

But, afaik, the compete in the same auction on the same terms.

AdSenseAdvisor

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Msg#: 14508 posted 10:58 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi everyone --

Click-to-play video ads can be paid EITHER on a CPM basis, or a CPC basis.

If the video ad is paid on a CPM basis, you'll be paid for impressions just like other CPM ads.

If the ad is paid on a CPC basis, you'll be paid when a user either 1) clicks on the display URL or 2) clicks on the video itself and is brought to the advertiser's site.

In either case, video ads compete in the same ad auction as all other AdWords ads, and they'll only display if they represent the highest revenue potential for that ad unit at that time.

For more information, see [google.com...]

Hope that clarifies!

-ASA

moTi

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Msg#: 14508 posted 5:34 pm on Jun 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

from adsense help center:
you'll receive earnings for each valid clickthrough on ad -- that is, a click on the display URL or playing video that directs a user to the advertisers' website.

right, so if accounted in cpc, the publisher only gets paid if the user lands on the website of the advertiser.
the crux is, that many users likely at most click on the play button, watch the video and then in the second step don't click further to the landing page. so on the one side the ad demands a considerable high amout of time and awareness from the user without the publisher being paid for the branding. on the other side it's limiting the attention time to your content, lowering the chance to monetize the visitor otherwise. that's simply not right.

if as purposed the video ads compete with the other ads in your ad slots, how is that supposed to work out? i predict a non-starter..
by now most publishers will have noticed, that cpc for other than text ads doesn't perform, whereas advertisers seem to shy cpm campaigns - that's the problem google has to face with every expansion of their ad types.

FattyB

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Msg#: 14508 posted 2:05 am on Jun 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think Adsense need to start letting us opt in or out of CPM and/or set minimum levels for various formats.

If I was looking to advertise and do some branding I would be using CPC video ads designed not to encourage clicking.

I would bet that is much easier to do with videos than images and even more so with text ads....

robrainwater

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Msg#: 14508 posted 2:06 am on Jun 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

The scary part is that advertisers can gain awareness for a product with these videos ads and only have to pay if they click to go to the site. If designed well, the video ad could be created in a way that wouldn't encourage going to the site. For instance, it doesn't seem fair to have your users watch a bunch of Pepsi (or whatever) videos and not be compensated for that.

jomaxx

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Msg#: 14508 posted 2:23 am on Jun 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you don't want to show videos then select "text ads only" when generating your ad block code.

Green_Grass

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Msg#: 14508 posted 4:45 am on Jun 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

"The scary part is that advertisers can gain awareness for a product with these videos ads and only have to pay if they click to go to the site."

Yes , I agree , Companies could use these video ads to generate brand awareness without generating clicks. This is bad for the publishers network. I am going to opt out quickly. However I think currently the ad inventory of G must be pretty limited as I am yet to see any on my site.

mzanzig

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Msg#: 14508 posted 8:41 am on Jun 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think video ads should indeed pay when the video is played, because the process is a three-stepped approach:

1) The video still acts as teaser (compared to the ad copy of a traditional text ad)
2) If there is enough interest, the play button is CLICKED to play the video (this click can be compared to the traditional CPC click, IMO)
3) Depending on the ad itself, the user may or may not click the ad again to get to the site.

There is a risk that products are advertised without offering a real incentive to get to the landing page (i.e. pure branding purpose). Which is not a good thing. For us publishers, that is.

Also, have a look at TV advertising - the companies typically pay the price for views (eyeballs), not for click-throughs or immediate consumer reactions.

AdSenseAdvisor

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Msg#: 14508 posted 5:50 pm on Jun 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

Video ads compete in the usual ad auction to appear on your site, so they'll only appear if they represent a higher eCPM than all the other combinations of ads that could otherwise appear on your site.

Don't forget how ad rank is calculated -- bid price is not the only factor weighed. Quality score is also taken into account. This means that even a video ad with a high bid price won't appear on your site unless it will actually perform better than the other ads competing to display in that ad unit.

So you shouldn't worry about CPC video ads appearing -- if they do, they are the highest paying ads available for that ad unit.

Here are two resources if you'd like to learn more:

1) This page will tell you more about ad rank:

[adsense.blogspot.com...]

2) This page will tell you more about how to tell whether site targeted or contextually targeted ads are appearing on your site, and why you may notice differences in eCPM between the two types of targeting:

[adsense.blogspot.com...]

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