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Google Adsense API = Next Major Spam Wave?
markus007




msg:1403068
 6:32 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing a lot of reports of a google API for adsense.

Quote from a press release today.

By leveraging the Google AdSense API, SITEABC has enabled its members to create Google AdSense accounts, earn cash for their content contributions, and track their earnings without ever leaving the SITEABC.com Web site.

Now instead of sites mass spamming themselves all over we have to worry about millions of users of sites like youtube, myspace etc spamming to try and get people to go to their page so they can earn money.

 

swa66




msg:1403069
 6:36 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Why do adsense users have to worry about other adsense users?

If the adwords users are happy, then all is fine.

jchampliaud




msg:1403070
 7:05 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

"If the adwords users are happy, then all is fine."

To a point that's true, but the overall health of AdSense depends a lot on how happy Google is and us publishers. We all work together.

I can see this diluting the high paying clicks just that much more.

guru5571




msg:1403071
 7:13 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hmmm.... Sounds like a recipe for extreme TOS violations.

celgins




msg:1403072
 8:05 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Now instead of sites mass spamming themselves all over we have to worry about millions of users of sites like youtube, myspace etc spamming to try and get people to go to their page so they can earn money.

I've never used Blogger, but isn't this a similar scenario (even though Google owns it)? Doesn't Blogger allow bloggers to signup with Adsense through the Blogger site?

Hobbs




msg:1403073
 8:35 pm on May 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

diluting the high paying clicks

Or absorbing all those low paying MFA site
Either way I wouldn't be too worried, the content network can grow or shrink, as long as you have a web site with good content and high quality traffic, this does not affect you much.
In the same way advertisers come and go, block content and try search, jump networks to YPN & MSN or the other way around, also publishers do the same.. I've learnt to only worry about my content and traffic, AdSense was never intended to be a secret.

Gernwax




msg:1403074
 4:35 pm on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is this API publicly available?

AdSenseAdvisor




msg:1403075
 5:53 pm on May 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi everyone --

If you want to read more about the AdSense API, the official announcement is here:

[adsense.blogspot.com...]

Hope that answers your questions.

-ASA

kartiksh




msg:1403076
 9:23 am on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)


[code.google.com...]

The AdSense API is a free beta service that enables you to integrate Google AdSense into your website offerings. Using the AdSense API, you can enable users to perform a variety of AdSense functions without ever leaving your website. Users can create or manage their AdSense accounts, modify their AdSense ads, and view ad performance and earnings reports.

The AdSense API is ideal for developers whose users create their own web content through web hosting, web publishing, blogging, and social networking applications. ....

From adsense blog

Approved AdSense API developers will receive a share of the revenue earned by the publishers you've signed up. In addition to the revenue share, you'll also receive $100 each time a new publisher you've signed up earns $100 in less than 180 days.

We've started taking applications from people whose sites receive a minimum of 100,000 daily page views

Application link: [services.google.com...]

Clark




msg:1403077
 3:16 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is there a demo site showing what a site using the API would look like? I'm trying to understand how this is better than a link to adsense.google.com?

jchampliaud




msg:1403078
 7:08 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is there a demo site showing what a site using the API would look like? I'm trying to understand how this is better than a link to adsense.google.com?

I'm guessing this is about integration, kind of like having a hotel booking engine on your site and not just a link to the hotel page. I think if this were done right with good content around it you might make a little money. Kind of like a how to site about making content sites and then a here this is how you can make money sign up page.

Clark




msg:1403079
 8:21 pm on Jun 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hmm. OK I suppose.

Question, As a publisher, why would I want to log on from an affiliate site instead of google's site? I'd worry that the third party could get data out from me. That I'd pay a commission and therefore earn less. Why wouldn't I go right to the source?

Unless I'm missing something, this is a total waste of everyone's time and not well thought out.

JoaoJose




msg:1403080
 12:06 pm on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Question, As a publisher, why would I want to log on from an affiliate site instead of google's site?

Imagine you use a free blog system which allows you to put adsense on your blog but only using the system's interface.

Clark




msg:1403081
 2:55 pm on Jun 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see. I suppose that makes some sense. Doesn't really excite me...not as a publisher, not as a developer and not as an advertiser. But maybe it will be a fit for some people here or there.

jhtyler




msg:1403082
 4:50 am on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sounds a lot like a pyramid scheme really.

Powdork




msg:1403083
 6:40 am on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Unless I'm missing something, this is a total waste of everyone's time and not well thought out.
Isn't it the only way members of sites like myspace, youtube, WEBMASTERWORLD;) could offer adsense on those pages. You had to know Adsense had to make some inroads into the web 2.0 space somehow.

I wonder if there will be a different TOS? I could certainly envision a higher allotment of single-ad units per page.
I could also envision SITEABC getting a referral for new accounts in return for a certain level of responsibility. There are certain TOS items SITEABC could enforce easily with design restrictions.

nomentanus




msg:1403084
 6:34 pm on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Everyone is missing something. This is a revolution for content producers. I left a comment yesterday, gone today. I won't rewrite it - go to completeconfusion.com if you want to read it.

It will truly change the web, I believe.

Tapolyai




msg:1403085
 7:24 pm on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think your deduction that Google "wants to get more and better quality content onto the web" is not so close to the truth.

I believe Google wants to get more Google out to the web.

I also believe the larger the pool of Adsense publishers, the better it is for Google, irrelevant of the quality of content.

I understand that Google is attempting to draw in those who are not technically savvy enough to add their own Adsense code to various publications.

Indeed, there is clear but implied "quality" factor here. We can safely presume that non-technical publishers (those who cannot create and make their own Adsense code, and include it within their publication) tend not to be MFAs, spammers and such.

Google API will increase the number of quality Adsense members, whom are not tech savvy.

Now developers just need to develop a simpler then-Google's method to include Adsense in publishers' pages.

I get it. I just don't have to like it. This will be fraught with security issues.

Jon_King




msg:1403086
 7:38 pm on Jun 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>It will truly change the web, I believe.

I do think you have said it well. Now, I can get paid for my marvelous wit right here at our very own WebmasterWorld. (As long as the service is added here.) Think what that might do to the quality of posts or create a nightmare of...?

(Am I reading this right, 100m pageviews a day to get in? And content subscription also?)

nomentanus




msg:1403087
 3:54 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I agree that security problems have to loom large here... adsense has enough such problems, and this might make click fraud too easy by half, for starts. I'm sure they have a plan though... 'course I said that about Iraq, too...

Any time you throw a lot of money in the middle of the table, there are going to be problems.

I love the comment saying "hey, what about paying me for my dazzling comments?" I think this will happen, too, eventually - why shouldn't webmasterworld.com, etc, want the best people showing up to comment, or at least the wittiest - so throw them some money too, once they've proved themselves.

Wikis are great, there are never enough saints, and they always start to recognize me after a while anyway.

Money works for most of us all too well. Imagine the day when for every great book in the bookstore, there's one as good or better up for free on the web. (Unless Google allows video you can't freeze so you can read the *#$# text.)

Clark




msg:1403088
 5:06 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Webmasterworld using the adsense API? I doubt Brett would waste a second of coding time on it. Heck, they still didn't convince him to put ads up let alone do any coding for them.

And if you have the resources to devote to their API, and invest your community into an adsense API, you are crazy. Why? Because Google has not shown itself worthy of the trust. They use questionable smart pricing algos, change the payout rate. Etc ad nauseum. So spend the time building this, sending your customers their way and tomorrow they do something to piss you off. What's your recourse? Remove your API'ed content?! After all that work? With all your customers asking what's up? Why don't you just hand your company, keys and all, over to Google?

If anyone is stupid enough to waste time on this, Google will be lucky, but this is good for google and only for google.

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