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eddywebs




msg:1350296
 7:49 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Recently in an local irc chat room there was a discussion going on adsense then there was one thing for ppl whos application were rejected its like that applying for adsense again and mentioning the website url which is not urs and has gr8 chances of getting an approval but the real admin of the site has not applied/have adsense on its pages .
Well the above trick really made sense to ppl .
Is it like someting that after approval of the site google checks it wether its showing on the pages of the site or not I?
And might juts work as u can paste adsense code after approval on any of the other sites right?
and google doesnt even checks them!

 

david_uk




msg:1350297
 7:59 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

It would help if the post was in English, and not sms text language. However, to answer the question, Google are not as stupid as these people assume. On the sign up form you have to enter who the cheque will be sent to, and that can't be ammended later. Therefore if you put in false name and address details you will end up with a useless cheque IF they allowed your application to proceed.

The application process takes a couple of days to process, and as well as looking at the website, they look at the WHOIS details to check that you are indeed the rightful owner of the site. At that point they will clearly ban you from Adsense forever. It's not worth trying.

Once you have been approved you can indeed paste the code to other sites you own, but at some point Adsense will clear the junk from the system, and if they have any sense they will cease this policy as it's a huge source of abuse.

martinibuster




msg:1350298
 8:26 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

You have to consider the source of the information. If they were so smart, they wouldn't be banned and having that conversation.

If Google is not already confirming site ownership through whois etc., then on Tuesday when they get back to work, someone's going to read this and put it on the agenda for their next weekly meeting.

david_uk




msg:1350299
 9:06 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

My comment above isn't entirely baseless.

My main site's account has been in my wife's name to use her tax allowance for a couple of years now, and I have my own account for tinkering around on new ideas. I haven't used it for a while. I wanted to re-activate it a couple of weeks back, and emailed adsense support as I couldn't log in on the account I thought I had registered in. Support told me that I couldn't use my adwords account to log in on - use a different email address and sign up again. I did this, and included the new site's address.

A couple of days later support emailed me to say something along the lines of "Oi - you signed up under ...@...co.uk, use that address to sign in on dingbat". In the two days it took them to process the application, there were two WHOIS lookups showing in the log files.

Now, I'm only assuming that the lookup was adsense support - I don't know this for a fact. However, if you were Adsense, wouldn't you perform this simple check?

Hobbs




msg:1350300
 9:09 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

martinibuster: The OP is talking about people whose application was rejected not banned, has nothing to do with being smart, only non compliance to what Google is looking for in a site.
Plus even as registrar Google cannot have access to domain information that the owners choose to block.

But I generally agree that if your policy is to 'hit and run' then you are not going to last very long in this business. Underestimating Google's seriousness about keeping its business clean is a fatal mistake.

miguelito




msg:1350301
 9:18 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

In the two days it took them to process the application, there were two WHOIS lookups showing in the log files.

I doubt they were from Google, ever heard of spammers? I used to have an open whois registar but got so fed up with spam idiots hassling me by phone, email and letter that i chose to have complete anonymity via domainsbyproxy

It was after this was set up that i joined adsense and the only way they can find out my details under that system is by legal demand that i must answer by lawyer etc.

so obviously, checking by whois is not something that Google adsense do, at least not usually.

TheFlipguy




msg:1350302
 9:19 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

David, I don't think G checks the whois record for confirming ownership of the website. I know this for a fact because I am using a spamguard feature on my domain where in the whois information displayed is actually those of my registrar (most registrar provide this feature these days). This was the case when I applied for adsense and I was approved without any hitch.

On the other hand, if you re-apply for Adsense with a different name and different website and after approval use the adsense code on a site that was banned before then that's very easy for the Adsense team to detect and ban the new account too.

No matter what you do, if your website violates the TOS, sooner or later they are going to detect it and ban you.

Flip

mm1220




msg:1350303
 9:45 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

sooner or later they are going to detect it and ban you.

I think these guys are clearly banking on later. Myself, I don't see the appeal in this "quick-buck" mentality.

Hubbard




msg:1350304
 10:04 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

If I get WHOIS'd my domain shows up registered to my hosting company.

I got an Adsense account after waiting for one hour so sometimes it's the content on the site they look up. If it looks pro enough with plenty of keywords they sign you up right away.

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