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General adsense question
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Imagepit




msg:1451051
 9:35 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,

This is my first post on this board ;)

My question,
i'm running a site for students of the University of Leuven(belgium)
I was recently approved by Google, so now I can start showing ads on my website..

But.. as said, it's a site for students, who are visiting this site, mostly during the week, while they are taking the courses and all internet connections for students are from the University Network (Kotnet) It serves about 20.000 connections.
All the computers within the network have internal 10.x.x.x IP's, for the outside world all the ip's are the same (4 different IP's for 20.000 students of the root netwerk hub to Brussels)
So if my visitors click, and when they do it looks like all the clicks are coming from the same IP as no computer outside the network can see behind the University Router..
Am I screwed even before I begin placing ads on my website or should I inform google about this?

 

Emilio




msg:1451052
 9:47 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Inform Google about this.

moTi




msg:1451053
 9:55 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

..and please report their statement back to this thread, since this is not the first question on this issue.

Imagepit




msg:1451054
 10:06 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

..and please report their statement back to this thread, since this is not the first question on this issue.

Any posts concerning this issue you remember?

groove30




msg:1451055
 10:48 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have exactly the same problem, I am launching a site that will be used exclusively by students at my university.

I have the same worries about the IP address.

Anyone heard anything about this issue?

moTi




msg:1451056
 12:08 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Any posts concerning this issue you remember?

the question is always the same, but i've never read an official answer on this. so it would be fine if you ask the adsense support team and report their statement back to us in your own words..

Hubbard




msg:1451057
 10:14 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

I had the same problem. Google's response was that they cannot block IP addresses sadly. The only solution you have is to not log in to your Adsense account from that network.

Hobbs




msg:1451058
 10:49 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

The following all appear to be coming from the same or few IPs:
Vietnam
Cuba
AOL
China
Saudi Arabia
All major university networks
All major companies
........

Google already knows how to handle it, do not worry

[edited by: Hobbs at 10:55 am (utc) on May 29, 2006]

Hobbs




msg:1451059
 10:53 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

And welcome to WW Imagepit!

Imagepit




msg:1451060
 4:31 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ok, their reply was that their system still can detect the correct clicks and google, friendly as they are, are looking forward to have me as a customer ;)

balour




msg:1451061
 4:35 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just curious to know if your site can be indexed by Googlebot and bring some valuable ads.

If nobody can`t access your site from Internet, I can`t see any valuable($) traffic for your site.

Imagepit




msg:1451062
 5:04 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Have to correct you there,
You can access it from the web
But all visitors on the website (95% students of the University of Leuven) will all have the same IP because they are on KOTNET, a university network ISP.

[INTERNET] > [MY SITE] < [KOTNET ISP (provides internet to 95% of my visitors, 4 IPs)]

balour




msg:1451063
 5:14 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Here what is confusing me:


...are coming from the same IP as no computer outside the network can see behind the University Router..

But, if your site is open to the world, you don`t have to whory, if visitors from the university IP have the same behavior as the visitors from the outside.

Google probably use some comparaisons tools on IP behavior to catch the bad site. If to much clicks, you can be at trouble.

Imagepit




msg:1451064
 5:34 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

But the thing is that my content isn't for people who are not studying in Leuven.. Do you visit sites and click on ads that mean totaly nothing to you? :)

jomaxx




msg:1451065
 5:50 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think some people are confused as to what you are talking about. It doesn't really make any difference where the website is, the point is that almost all users will appear to be coming from the same IP address.

Having a large number of users behind a small number of IP addresses is not that unusual a situation, so I'm not surprised Google told you their software can handle it. Nonetheless you may come under increased scrutiny because of that fact, so you should be careful to follow every term of the TOS.

I think you may also find that the demographic you're targeting (university students in Belgium) is not that interesting to many advertisers. As a result you may have trouble showing ads, or else you may be smartpriced into oblivion.

Imagepit




msg:1451066
 6:07 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

You have to think international ;)
As I believe that advertiser do think that potential commercial engineers and commercial engineers in governmental software dev. are rather interesting.
I think mostly economic software and education ads will be displayed on our site and if the revenues will cover the hosting expenses then i'm happy.
I don't need Adsense for an income.

balour




msg:1451067
 8:43 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

You can give a try to Google Preview Tool to see the potential advertiser on your site. This will give you a good idea of the advertiser interested on your stuff.

https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/topic.py?topic=154

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