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Maintenance this Saturday, May 27
10:00am -- approx. 3:00p.m. PDT
AdSenseAdvisor




msg:1354652
 10:21 pm on May 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

We'll be performing routine AdSense maintenance on Saturday, May 27, at 10:00am PDT. The maintenance is expected to last for several hours.

As you know, during this time you may not be able to access your account. However, your Google ads will continue to display, and stats and earnings will continue to accrue in your account.

If you're in the U.S., try to enjoy the 3-day weekend!

ASA

 

Hobbs




msg:1354682
 7:58 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

I really need to know how many people and who clicked on 21_blue's link! A gold mine of potential buyers for my widget that flies into ceiling fans, floats and happens!

could we merge the 2 threads or something?

Bddmed




msg:1354683
 7:59 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

21_blue,

Nice find. The article costed me a nice glass of wine and a new laptop.

The story as represented above is written as a satire or parody. It is fictitious.

Hobbs




msg:1354684
 8:05 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

How about we monitor changes over few days and report any new trends.
Some suggestions to keep observations relevant

Report only if before the maintenance:
1- You measure your daily clicks in more than tens of clicks
2- You site statistics were stable with no major fluctuations
3- Your earnings were stable before the maintenance

Hope this helps pinpoint changes (if there are any)

MikeNoLastName




msg:1354685
 9:16 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

"If you're in the U.S., try to enjoy the 3-day weekend!"

Man, I've really tried so far, but without my reports to check on every 15 minutes and keep me company as usual, I've felt nothing but lost. It's really messed with my orientation. I may have to take up flower arrangement at the local community college...

jpservicez1




msg:1354686
 9:28 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

The Adsense is Back On in the UK

youfoundjake




msg:1354687
 9:29 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

As is here in California, but Adwords let me login and gave a message of "AdWords will be offline for 5 hours beginning immediately."

surftrack




msg:1354688
 9:30 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

yep back on here in nc

turtlehurricane




msg:1354689
 10:10 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

i missed the whole thing.when i went to work it worked. when i came back it worked.

wise_mike




msg:1354690
 10:21 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

Back here in Egypt too..

Green_Grass




msg:1354691
 4:51 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes , it is back again.. But my eCPM. CPC have all bombed.. I really donot like this so called maintainance..seems a way to temporarily jack up G earnings or what ..

Hobbs




msg:1354692
 7:30 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Over 12 hours and I have nothing horrifying to report (yet)

.. except maybe the song "I'm with stupid" echoing through my ears and I can't get it out. I think the 'inner me' is trying to send an instant message!

wmuser




msg:1354693
 1:03 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Working here for over 12 hours now,reports are ok as well

ineedmoney




msg:1354694
 2:12 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

I couldn't access my adsense yesterday, and today when I looked I had no payment link yet? Does this mean I'm getting booted?

OptiRex




msg:1354695
 3:32 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have nothing horrifying to report (yet)

Unfortunately I have just had a friend asking me to check out his site, SERPs, earnings etc since his site has almost died!

He averages 100 clicks per day, lowest day this year Easter Sunday with 44 clicks, so far today 3 clicks!

He's hoping for a click dump since I can't find anything wrong as yet.

Hobbs




msg:1354696
 3:46 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Unless your friend's site has been pulled aside for a manual review, I am not observing anything in my stats warranting a click dump Optirex, 100 down to 3 is not a casual fluctuation, but he is in good hands now I am sure.

almost 24 hours now and things are holding.

Celicaphile




msg:1354697
 4:45 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Effin' great... earnings are still at around 50% of what they were before the last maintenance... #*$!? :(

yummybanas




msg:1354698
 5:21 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Unfortunately I have just had a friend asking me to check out his site, SERPs, earnings etc since his site has almost died!

He averages 100 clicks per day, lowest day this year Easter Sunday with 44 clicks, so far today 3 clicks!

He's hoping for a click dump since I can't find anything wrong as yet.

I think I have the same problem here. Clicks aren't registering for me atm. I'm tracking them with a script and I know people are clicking, but it doesn't show on adsense.

rkhare




msg:1354699
 5:34 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Clicks aren't registering for me atm. I'm tracking them with a script and I know people are clicking, but it doesn't show on adsense.

even I noticed difference in clicks reported by my tracking prog. and as reported in adsense for Friday and Saturday. Its o.k. for today.

yummybanas




msg:1354700
 7:07 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

OK. There is a slight delay. I just got a click dump.

Hobbs




msg:1354701
 7:42 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm not noticing any, but if enough people confirm a clicks reporting delay, then that could possibly mean that the last maintenance was related to the anti-click-fraud algo, which is fine as long as they stop 'tweaking the smartpricing algo.

I think the guys at the plex are either laughing at this or hating our guessing their updates.

OptiRex




msg:1354702
 9:42 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Fortunately my friend has had a click dump and it's now looking more like a holiday weekend Sunday:-)

then that could possibly mean that the last maintenance was related to the anti-click-fraud algo

Interesting idea since my core sites seem to be updating quite slowly, EPC, CTR, eCPM are all fine, they just look a couple of hours or so behind what my logs are telling me has happened.

I'm certainly not expecting a Sunday like last week however, according to my logs, I ought to be at about 75% and I'm nowhere near that figure.

Green_Grass




msg:1354703
 3:29 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes, there was a click dump for me too and stats are slowly coming back to normal. I guess I jumped the gun a little early..

OptiRex




msg:1354704
 11:03 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm very pleased to report earnings precisely as expected vis-a-vis my logs even my friend's site ended up where it usually does on a Sunday.

I am seeing delays in the AdSense stats again today, Monday, and again looking anywhere up to 2 hours behind.

If it's all to do with checking for click fraud etc, I have no problem, I just wish they would confirm that the updates are permanently realtime -2hours.

I do know that has been the actual situation for quite some time however it plays psychologically on the mind when one day at 15.00 one has say USD 50 then the next it's USD 30 then the next USD 60 meanwhile the entire day pans out to all three days being virtually identical.

Hobbs




msg:1354705
 11:43 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

I just wish they would confirm that ..

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a confirmation.
Google and specifically click fraud detection survives on ambiguity and in some cases I wouldn't blame them given what is at risk and what we see here almost everyday.

Green_Grass




msg:1354706
 12:01 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

"If it's all to do with checking for click fraud etc, I have no problem"

So all those who 'survived' this maintainance are safe for a while ....

or can the axe still fall ...

wmuser




msg:1354707
 12:09 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Green_Grass hopefuly thats true

Hobbs




msg:1354708
 12:13 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

>can the axe still fall

Green_Grass,
The click fraud algo is busy working in real time not only in retrospect, to answer your question: YES the axe can and will fall, surviving fraud detection one day does not mean you are safe tomorrow, just keep your nose clean and you have nothing to fear.

FUD is the word.

Green_Grass




msg:1354709
 12:44 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

"just keep your nose clean "

Thank you .. I will try to keep it clean ;-)

Of course fraud detection is a realtime process, I can understand that. What I was wondering was that if they did a major 'maintainance' for checking only click fraud and we were given a clean chit... :-)

Just maybe, we are o.k. for a while.. and we who 'survived' have no current problems with our traffic and clicks..

The future is not for us to see...

OptiRex




msg:1354710
 12:55 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google and specifically click fraud detection survives on ambiguity

Precisely how they perform it they need to keep under wraps however wouldn't we all feel better with the knowledge that our stats are actually valid however, say 2 hours behind reality, and that Google days are from 10.00 GMT and not 08.00 GMT? Or is it 09.00 at the moment?

Realistically it makes no difference to me whatsoever if it is 6 hours or so behind so long as I know this and that I see a good steadily rising earning's chart.

Do you remember when they tried real time stats a couple of years ago? That must've given the servers a pasting with everyone checking every few seconds for updates!

Hobbs




msg:1354711
 1:12 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ok Green_Grass, here is what I think goes on, but remember we can only guess, this is only a simplification of how I would do it nothing more..

I would have a code that constantly monitors clicks and their sources, and store information for every single click that includes all obtainable variables like Advertiser ID, ad code, publisher ID, page clicked, clicker user agent, IP, referrer, frequency of clicks in the last 24 hours from that IP, from the IP class C range too, ISP, earned amount for that click.. the list is endless just for one click.

Another list for flags and alerts per publisher, have the alerts escalate with repeated incidents for the same publisher, advertiser or the person that clicked..

A publisher can be at green, yellow, orange, red, purple or black alert level, and get kicked out if a certain threshold of frequency of escalations or gravity of escalation, or a manual review.

Being still active says nothing about your alert level, also how many strikes you have survived so far and how many lives you have left..

An update in the click fraud algo (if this is really what happened, we don't know) is just a better, smarter code that detects more things or does it faster or whatever, has nothing to do with a publisher's survival.

All this is just silly guessing anyway, just work on your content and get traffic and leave the worrying for Google.

Hobbs




msg:1354712
 1:19 pm on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Personally OptiRex, I think my productivity will triple if they report only clicks in real time and earnings at the end of the day, this way I can rest without the worry of a click attack, and get the Christmas gift surprise or disappointment only once a day.

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