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So just what effect has the RODEO maintenance done to your earnings?
Bizarre after effects of May 13th maintenance...
OptiRex



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 7:12 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hobbs wrote:

Yeah the ups and downs are Las Vegas style nowadays OptiRex, why aren't we giving those 'maintenance downs' names like in the updates?

I vote for calling this one Rodeo

Me? I'll quote from earlier today:

I am seeing totally extreme CTR and eCPM swings from one day to the next that I have never seen before.

Today, Tuesday, compared to Monday my CTR is up 60% and my eCPM up by 105%!

My site in 3 years has never varied +/-20% from its average CTR and eCPM.

IF, yeah if, today continues in the same vein I shall easily have my best-ever day since my earnings are already looking as they normally do 3-4 hours ahead.

Therefore what will tomorrow bring, further new low records?

This is bizarre, what are they doing?

As a continuation from the above, my earnings after 12 hours have already exceeded my daily average, my CTR and eCPM are still running at never before seen levels and I...am totally confused!

I've been busy checking my logs to see if there seems to be anything unusual, but no, all looks completely "normal".

I love the earnings however just what is going to be the fallout from this?

Who else has seen similar patterns?

Extremely high or low levels never experienced before?

 

Hobbs

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Msg#: 14105 posted 7:18 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks OptiRex for adopting the name Rodeo, I hope we mark future similar events by fitting names as well.

RODEO left me seasick.
The 14 th swept the floor with my earnings
The 16 is taking me to a new sky high

Like you I am becoming very apprehensive

northaqua

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 7:53 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

My CTR is up over 60% of average along with earnings and the eCPM is up nearly 150%

I have never seen this, but I am pretty new and It is sort of almost worrisome.

humblebeginnings

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Msg#: 14105 posted 8:05 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well, I don't see anything out of the ordinary for the past few days... My stats show the usual numbers, so no Rodeo for me, yet...

maxgoldie

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 8:19 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone have anymore details concerning the nature of the maintenance?

jpservicez1

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 8:19 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Optirex and Hobbs,

Are you guys experiencing any drop in your index pages, trying to see if there is a pattern with this unexpected increase in CTR...

Also guys ask yourself this question is the CTR in line with what you would expect from your sites and other sites in the same theme

just asking?

Hobbs

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Msg#: 14105 posted 8:27 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

jpservicez1
Before Rodeo I had removed ads from some non performing pages, so my eCPM and CTR are higher and my ad impressions are less, my visitors are the same, indexed pages the same, earning took a nose dive then now rocketing, it's very hard to make any sense of Google changes when they happen right in the middle of your doing your own tests & changes.

Content_ed

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Msg#: 14105 posted 8:57 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

it's very hard to make any sense of Google changes when they happen right in the middle of your doing your own tests & changes

Yes, but I can't seem to get them onboard when it comes to scheduling. I'm willing to be flexible:-)

Chapman

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 9:06 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sadly, I'm not part of the 16th "miracle"!

My 14th was second best day this month... fifth this year.

Yesterday and today have been like the entire AdSense network was shutoff at noon. Very high quality ($1.00+)clicks for the first 6 hours. Very low quality ($.01-$.10) clicks the next 6 hours. Constantly increasing page impressions but NO clicks for the rest of the day.

I think I'm sitting on to the wrong end of the bronco!

Chapman

Scurramunga

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Msg#: 14105 posted 9:12 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seeing totally extreme CTR and eCPM swings from one day to the next that I have never seen before.

Same here

cornwall

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Msg#: 14105 posted 9:13 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

As a continuation from the above, my earnings after 12 hours have already exceeded my daily average, my CTR and eCPM are still running at never before seen levels and I...am totally confused!

OptiRex

My stats are an exact copy of yours today, and that 12 hour figure is spot on mine too.

Appears almost to be accelerating, the last hour to 10 pm UK time is a gain considerably larger for an hour than I have seen before.

greedy player



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 9:21 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

ecpm is rising throught day , noticeably higher at night .. UK 10pm>

Hobbs

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Msg#: 14105 posted 9:24 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think I'm sitting on to the wrong end of the bronco!

LOL Chapman
at least you are still sitting and not flat out!

If I put Rodeo aside, I can (guess) what happened to me:

I raised my ecpm, I raised myself above the reasonable range for my site targeting advertisers, lost them, dropped earnings, my ads became more relevant, my visitors started to click more, earnings increasing now, next Friday SmartPricing will go hey, you've had it good for too long, give some back, another nose dive but this time with less ad impressions, site targeting advertisers will find me within their range, I will get hit again with irrelevant ads, so naturally clicks drop, now with low clicks and low ad impressions I am flat out, I start putting some ads in after complaining here first, earnings pick up and the cycle begins again ..Add Rodeo to the mix and I am clueless. I miss building content for a living!

yummybanas

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Msg#: 14105 posted 11:12 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've had bizarre swings too since that maintenance.

I suffered a 60% decrease the day before the maintenance, on the 12th.

Then it was back to normal on the 13th-15th, with average to fairly above normal days. Then comes the 16th, and I plummented again with a 50-70% decrease.

I've never seen so much fluctuation across my sites.

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 12:02 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Are you guys experiencing any drop in your index pages, trying to see if there is a pattern with this unexpected increase in CTR...

No drop from the SERPs, page impressions running absolutely normal, nothing strange whatsoever with my sites, no TV or radio show features, nothing different.

Also guys ask yourself this question is the CTR in line with what you would expect from your sites and other sites in the same theme

Sunday's and today's CTRs eCPM's are way out of line, as I wrote earlier:

My site in 3 years has never varied +/-20% from its average CTR and eCPM.

It is almost as if AdSense were throttling my earnings one day by manually checking the clicks for validity then releasing them gently throughout the next day.

If my CTR and eCPM nose dive on Wednesday and then rocket again on Thursday, I may be on to something!

It's reassuring to read that others are experiencing exactly the same and to see earnings consistently all day like this makes me feel just like Markus007:-)

Chapman

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 12:09 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hobbs-

"I miss building content for a living!"

That's what's so depressing/disturbing... last year you could ignore the system, network and most of all, the stats and just concentrate on producing! Now it's very difficult to get into production mode when your honest earnings have completely dried up and the stats say it's going to stay that way!

It's a "hell bound train" to say the least! When the stats are good and earnings are positive I try to create as quickly as possible before it all falls apart!

Oh well... what an extraordinarily strange game this is! No rules... wow!

Chapman

ken_b

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Msg#: 14105 posted 1:21 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

... last year you could ignore the system, network and most of all, the stats and just concentrate on producing!

It still looks like that from where I sit. Darn boring actually, just keep on working on the site and cashing the checks, what a hassle!

rden17

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 1:47 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm getting the opposite the last couple of days. In the past, I would get a decent amount of clicks in the morning/early afternoon and taper off at night. Last few days, nothing all day (0) and then after 6pm I get my clicks all at once for the day.

Not sure what it means, if anything, but is definately been different since the Rodeo. I feel like a Rodeo Clown

hunderdown

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 2:24 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

I don't think I've seen this effect. Earnings and EPC have both been up since the maintenance, but not drastically, and no big swings.

Perhaps they tweaked the targeting algorithm?

freedata

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 7:37 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am going thru one of the worst weeks I ever had. My earnings are 70% of what they normally are. Both CTR and eCPM are down by 20% to 30%. Hope this is not permanent.

Hobbs

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Msg#: 14105 posted 8:28 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Nothing is permanent, that's the only fixed fact.

miguelito

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Msg#: 14105 posted 10:49 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

my CTR and page impressions are constant for the whole month but earnings have dropped about 40 % over the last 3 days.
i have never seen that before in 2 years (on my sites)
not complaining just reporting, i'm more concerned about how Google have screwed up all their search engine results more than the temporary drop in earnings.

Hobbs

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Msg#: 14105 posted 11:35 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

OK
the 16 finished with exceptional almost record breaking fireworks.

the 17th so far is on 1/2 ecpm, epc & earnings by this time.

traffic & ctr at normal levels.

there we go again..

pcooklin

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 11:37 am on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hello - This is my first post. I joined to try and find answers to a sudden drop in the epc/cpm.
Let me explain.

I have been consistently making a steady climb in my overall earnings using adsense by means of buying traffic. I reached 600 profit per day for a few days but it fell back to 500 on monday, thats fine. Im more than happy with that.

Then, today, I noticed my epc was 1/4 the normal rate and my cpm had fallen by half. This makes my working model not viable as its now costing me more to get the traffic than I am making profit from it.

I have not changed the site in question at all. But I did change a sister website by following the same methods of the first which uses the same google account. The sister website (site B) has a good google rank and so does site A. However, Im wondering if this change of 2 websites with similar front pages has caused site A's epc/cpm to radically drop.
The advertisers are the same, same ads.

Naturally Im in shock and nearly crying in my beer :)

Is this just a glitch?

Something else, I emailed Google about my site 2 days ago when all was good just to double check my site met their TOS and they confimed it did. My paranoia is telling me perhaps they lowered it manually, but Im sure that cant be true, it wouldnt help them to blow me out of the water or the advertisers who were getting lots of relevant traffic.

Many thanks in advance.
Paul.

pcooklin

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 12:49 pm on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

P.S are law and finance websites always this choppy or is it across the board?

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 1:01 pm on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Like Hobbs, my 16th ended up with very good earnings, not record-breaking however very acceptable.

I tracked the clicks and earnings throughout the day as they came in and all performed way above average for the first 16 hours however for the last 8 hours the EPC dropped by a dramatic 38.5%.

OK, so this may have been advertisers daily budgets running out etc.

So far today my EPC is normal BUT my CTR has dropped as follows:

From 16.00 16th Google time -29.16%
From 24.00 16th Google time -24.36%

Compared to monthly average -9.23%

I'm going to have a bet that the violent swings we have seen for the past few days, the last couple of weeks for several reading through other posts, are now levelling/settling themselves down to the new Rodeo maintenance update.

The Urchin server where my AdSense data is held seems to be the first one to feel all these effects therefore it may be a couple of days before the other servers catch-up.

Interestingly my overall earnings for the month are absolutely "normal"! :-)

Anyone else with Rodeo rides to tell us about?

Chapman

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 1:38 pm on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

OptiRex-

I was eager to hear how you faired as the 16th came to a close. Very interesting indeed!

I'm seeing a complete change from the past two days where I've had NO clicks of any value this morning after several thousand PI's. CTR is 15% of normal and eCPM is non-existant.

I'm curious to see how the rest of the day shapes up as I'm currently without any realistic earnings at all. A complete reversal of the 15th and 16th but a continuation in lack of consistancy.

Chapman

Ossifer

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 1:47 pm on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

I reported in another thread that I had seen impressions recorded in adsense drop by half, but Google Analytics showing no drop.

I can now say it wasn't due to the maintenance by Google.

User error at my end which lost me a day's earnings :(

Otherwise, no adverse effects that I have noticed...

greedy player



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 1:52 pm on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

earnings increasing day by day since sunday, on its way back up? who knows.

Chapman

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14105 posted 1:54 pm on May 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ossifer-

Thanks for the clarification on the disparity.

I wondered what was going on there and I was curious as to whether you were insinuating anything.

Chapman

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