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Pulled out my own site
stopped Adsense myown
r3nz0

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 9:28 pm on May 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I had a good site with user advertisements about rental houses.. It was a 200$ site (montly)

No work at al.. just start it, let users put some advertisements and get your money.

I have another site about cooking.. it was my little friend on witch i spend the most time.. almost 16 hours a day. Earnt me 100$+ a month. Lot more content, lot more love, lot more html art and nice architecture of the UI. It cost me a relationship and maybe more...

What i will say is that i became scared of my own sites! Last month i stopped the first one.. no adsense anymore no earings. But it feel better. PS site was ok by TOS... but with sites you can create whole lookalike company's running on 1 man. Thats the problem.

On the other side its not fear that you earn for a high traffic site a lot less than a mafia alike site. (rental companies are mafia, and dont let me talk about cooking world or every other niche)

maybe i have to become garden man, and yes without a site ;)

So to give this topic a little kick; Adsense is just the wrong word.. we will need AdMoral or AdWorkers.

bye. thnx goodluck and hold on.

 

webpublisher

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 9:50 pm on May 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sorry you have lost me - run that past me again!

jurii

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 9:55 pm on May 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you've got a good site about rental houses that offers some value to your visitors, why not stay with Adsense? It deserves some money if the site is ok. And, sorry, 200$ a month isn't Mafia money.

r3nz0

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 9:55 pm on May 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

It are no questions.. just my thoughts. English is not my mother language, sorry for that.

What i will see is fair coffee and fair internet. I'll come as lot of you from the good old BBS scene. Now i see that internet is scary.. after 20 years.

Maybe im in my depression period.

Jurri is right.. 200$ is nothing, it was a small site; 4500 uniques a month! By webalizer.. when i look at analytics it was a lot less. CTR rates where about 10%.

But it was a site with a live, out of my control. Maybe my problem but still :/

And i think there was no value.. crazy haha. I see more value when a visitor prints my meatballs recipt.

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 10:17 pm on May 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm lost for words...what is all this about?

ve3cnu

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 10:26 pm on May 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you don't want your first site I will take it over for you - no more adsense guilt!

Really, this sounds like you are posting that you feel this adsense thing is unethical. If true, don't shut down your sites, sell them to someone else..

Hope this helps.

r3nz0

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 10:35 pm on May 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

OptiRex, dont tell you don't like my meatballs you have to try it! ;)

The last poster gets it.. maybe i have to sell it. But for me its more difficult.

danimal



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 11:22 pm on May 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

you have to be proud of what you do, in order to sleep at nite... if you have morals, that is.

some people run mfa websites that basically steal money from advertisers... your websites do not sound like that to me.

your sites are honorable, and you are giving your advertisers quality leads that they will gladly pay for... if you doubt the value of your websites, contact adsense support, and ask them for an opinion.

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 12:11 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

dont tell you don't like my meatballs you have to try it! ;)

Aha! Are they as good as mine though? I was taught by a Toscanan master chef:-)

ann

WebmasterWorld Senior Member ann us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 2:39 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

It sounds as if he or she has mixed up MFA= Made For Adsense, with Mafia=Gangland outfit! A whole different ball game.

Hey guy, Get a grip!

Ann

Ganceann

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 4:09 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

If your sites can offer advertisers potential leads then it is viable.

You never started the site to try and con people or trick them.

You could be SAVING advertisers money by providing legitmate leads for them to follow up. That is the idea behind adsense - for legitmate leads and potential sales.

Your personal life has had some affect due to your interest but you should not question your morals. You had honorable intentions and it sounds as if they provide useful information.

A time-out from the scene and selling your website may be a choice that you decide to do. It is MFA sites that are deliberately set up to con and trick users into clicking adverts that is unethical, not the adsense programme.

Adsense is just another advertising medium. If adsense is unethical then it could be said ALL advertising is unethical... and in a sense it is because results can never be the same as the hype around the claims by the marketing companies.

Hobbs

WebmasterWorld Senior Member hobbs us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 6:23 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

So what do we have here?

- Work is more moral than AdSense
- Making money from a (high) traffic site is scary
- One man operations are worrying

I think you made the right decision, good luck in gardening.

jema

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 6:43 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well I can't quite get the drift of the post, but I sympathise with the sentiment that for people with ethics making money via adsense can raise questions.
So much of what you need to do to make a living is not about adding value for your vistors.
Personally I found I had to settle for a niche that may not be high earning, but which I was ethically happy with.

Hobbs

WebmasterWorld Senior Member hobbs us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 7:17 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

jema,

>>people with ethics making money via adsense can raise questions

You are confusing ethical with the comfort of working in your topic, how many people do you know that hate their 9 to 5 jobs but still wake up in the morning and go to work?

>>what you need to do to make a living is not about adding value for your vistors

Why is that?
Advertising affords the billion users of the web the free information. Or you are saying the AdSense specifically has something wrong with it?

jema

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 8:47 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think it is well known with adsense that on a lot of subjects writing the best possible web site for your visitors is not the way to maximise revenue.

Fuzzyfish1000

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 9:51 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think it is well known with adsense that on a lot of subjects writing the best possible web site for your visitors is not the way to maximise revenue.

I disagree. If you build so it's best for users - they're happy. They are your customers, so to speak. If they come back, and tell others about it - or better, link to it, you profit, regardless of ecpm, etc.

r3nz0

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 10:02 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

First, thnx for all your (positive) posts! Ill need it.

But i would like to clear some things. The site i was talking about was not MFA. Maybe MWA..... (Made WITH Adsense)

To tell a little history; i started the adsense carriere with a site that was not legal by TOS. It was about softdrugs..

My own stupid fault but i earned more than 1500$ (adsense money) with that site. After a year google has stopped the fun and asked me to stop de advertisements on that site... i did. A while after that i pulled out the whole site. (never saw police for this site)

Then the rental marked has my interest.. within 6 months i was contacted by police, because some clients payd for a home that they never get.

Thats makes me think again... While i was having some toilet minutes my brains popped out the cooking site! This one is etical the best site..... dont talk about foie gras!

Ok lets gardening for a while, maybe ill come back with some other projects in a few years. The most important thing i learned is that your interactive (enterprise) site has to have potentials to be easy managed.

In my private box i had the first bid on the rental site.. 1000$ haha. Thnx guys!

[edited by: r3nz0 at 10:04 am (utc) on May 15, 2006]

Hobbs

WebmasterWorld Senior Member hobbs us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 10:02 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

are we still talking about ethics?

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 10:51 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm still missing something here!

Then the rental marked has my interest.. within 6 months i was contacted by police, because some clients payd for a home that they never get.

Are you talking about an actual house or your web site?

If your web site, how have they paid for something they never got if you withdrew AdSense?

Thats makes me think again... While i was having some toilet minutes my brains popped out the cooking site! This one is etical the best site..... dont talk about foie gras!

So now you're considering a cooking site with AdSense?

Ok lets gardening for a while, maybe ill come back with some other projects in a few years. The most important thing i learned is that your interactive (enterprise) site has to have potentials to be easy managed.

Or maybe an AdSense web site with gardening? Do not forget that gardens react differently in each part of the world. What may be relevant to you could mean nothing to many millions of other people.

In my private box i had the first bid on the rental site.. 1000$ haha. Thnx guys!

A member at WebmasterWorld has offered $1000 to buy your existing web site?

Heavens I'm slow today...!

Hobbs

WebmasterWorld Senior Member hobbs us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 11:19 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

lol OptiRex

r3nz0, on your next toilet minutes, consider OptiRex's suggestion on a gardening site if that's your passion.
Excuse us as it is difficult to understand what you are trying to say.

Alioc

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 11:44 am on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Renzo, I'm having a hard time trying to get the real point here too, but whatever your plan is, do yourself a favor and take a vacation; to somewhere without any Internet cafe's around and without a laptop. That seems to be the first thing you've to do. It's not about AdSense or websites but you and computers. Take a break! :)

I hope things get better in time for you.

ann

WebmasterWorld Senior Member ann us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 12:02 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

His first post sounds like he is afraid of the mafia but his last one speaks of police?

Are you by any chance scamming people into buying property that don't exist or are you running a troll on us?

Get a friend who understands english, tell him what you mean and let him post it here in your name....

Man! You are confusing!

Ann

PinkFairy

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 12:29 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

This doesn't seem to involve adsense at all? If you're running a site with any financial transactions amongst visitors, then you're always likely to have some problems crop up.

I just love the phrase 'toilet minutes', going to have to use that in the future.

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 1:03 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

'toilet minutes'

I always thought I was quite "normal" until a new programmer came to work with me and the first time he went to the toilet he came back amazed since there in seven neat magazines stacks were:

IT mag 1
IT mag 2
Car mag 1
Car mag 2
World news mag
Weekly girly gossip mag
Current holiday brochures

His comment? What a brilliant idea, I've never thought of doing that.

I've never known a home loo/bathroom without this!

ve3cnu

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 2:21 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

ann,

the rental site was user content generated

somebody possibly got ripped off, but the perp was not the OP but a user.

of course the police investigated the site involved and probably cleared the OP

r3nz0

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 3:12 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

To: Optirex and others

The first site was a site with the posibility for all users to place an advertisement for their rental house(s).

My cooking site is still alive and cooking.

I'll have a nice free domain to build a garden site.. and it will be nice to do that. But I appreciate the advices to take a little break.

Yes a member has offered $ 1000, i did not replyd on that msg yet. Maybe i'll have to contact a (huge) rental company.

As you can see i talk almost rubbish.. but it is not. I'll understand you, sorry for that. Its nice to see how you try to understand my point. If there is a point... haha, with all your reply's my today's day feels better than yesterday evening!

The last poster ve3cnu understands the problem.. the police contacted me to get the IP address of the user who posted a advertisement of a house that did'nt belong to him. He earnt a few thousant EURO's from different people with this kind of silly trick.

What i will say is too complex i think, but the toilet minutes are alway's great. I miss a team with people who want to give up their time to help me build the webbuildings i want to build. Family don't understand what youre doing etc..

Hobbs

WebmasterWorld Senior Member hobbs us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 3:30 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

toilet minutes are alway's great

little too much information there pal.

btw if I were you I would quickly register the domain toilet minutes and have people post their brilliant toilet ideas, lots of money there.

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 3:30 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

r3nz0

All clear now:-))

Web_speed



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 3:44 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

r3nz0,

Haaaa now i get it. You should have mentioned that right at the beginning :-)

Stay out of the sun buddy and don't forget to drink alot...

r3nz0

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 14073 posted 5:10 pm on May 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

thnx Hobbs!

i just registered it ;)

hehe, he's mine.

WWW is a great forum! Great guy's, lets do this new project.

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