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Is it already too late to start with AdSense?
Wondering if newbies have chance to earn some seriuos money
neximuss




msg:1412695
 12:59 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hello @ all,
it's great to be with you. I smile again, because I see a chance to earn some extra money if I engage myself with AdSense. So, a few questions.

I do know some stuff about SEO and if I would spend more time, I could be very good in this segment.

But the question is, if it is too late to start some new sites on specific high payed AdSense keywords and try to earn some money?

I know that the "golden" days are over and that is now much harder to earn serious money. So answer please realistic.

I would like to earn about 200-400$ a month.

Is it possible to make it with new sites created for this purpose or must it be a already wellknown web portal or similar?

Thank you in forward,
Nex

 

OptiRex




msg:1412696
 1:09 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I know that the "golden" days are over and that is now much harder to earn serious money.

Really? I think the general consensus is that +/-5% of advertising expenditure is spent on-line and that is going rise.

Is it possible to make it with new sites created for this purpose

Construct a relevant site for the visitor, not for the money alone. If all you are interested in is money then you've most probably half lost the chance...

NOTE: Not half won!

neximuss




msg:1412697
 1:51 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Construct a relevant site for the visitor, not for the money alone. If all you are interested in is money then you've most probably half lost the chance...

Don't worry, I'm not one of those who don't take care about design, layout and such userfriendly instruments.

Thanks for sharing your optimsm. You're right, I didn't even allow myself a view into the future, where internet is for sure taking more seriously then now.

Sobriquet




msg:1412698
 2:13 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

No its not too late. Start NOW...

And dont follow the quick route or short cut.

This avenue market is wide open for atleast next 10 to 15years.

Troutnut




msg:1412699
 4:54 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Is it too late to start writing? People have been writing since at least the first civilizations in Mesopotamia over 4000 years ago... but there's still a market for it.

If you can produce a website of interest to people and figure out how to get them to it (all of which CAN be done by a newcomer, especially after reading forums like this one extensively) then you can make the money you're looking for. In fact, if you're good at it and devote yourself to it, you can make a LOT more.

dollarshort




msg:1412700
 5:02 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

The party is just begining MSN, Yahoo, and others are clamering to get some action, this means its a good model, without publishers it won't work. As long as Google continues to pay publishers well they can keep thier grip on the market.

jomaxx




msg:1412701
 5:23 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

The expansion of the Web into every aspect of our lives will be an ongoing story for decades. OTOH, designing sites around "specific high payed AdSense keywords" has been done to death.

By all means think through who will be using your site and why, and how advertisers might be able to benefit from targeting your audience. But if you're so lacking in creativity that you're actually thinking in terms of keyword lists, then forget it.

david_uk




msg:1412702
 5:34 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

You seem to want to write sites tailored at what you think are high paying keywords. I have to say that many people do exactly the same, so there is stiff competition. Besides, what people percieve as high payers are only high payers on adsense if the sites work for the advertisers. I think sites that are keyword generated get smart priced down the toliet. There are often threads here were somebody comes on to as why they are getting only 5c for keywords "worth" $100 a click. In any case, what is a high keywords at this moment will probably not be high paying by the time the site is online.

So we always advise people to find a niche of their own where thay can write a worthwhile site that they will be keen to promote both now and in the future. That's where the smart money is.

Troutnut




msg:1412703
 5:57 am on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Another thing to note: designing for the user is not just about your visual layout and usability. It's ALSO about creating content that will really please the user. You want them to think your site's so cool that they tell their friends about it.

Many people going into the AdSense game try to do it with a site full of articles they found on free article directories and other such low-quality nonsense. Forget about all those shortcuts and built a good, original, interesting site, and (as long as your topic isn't horrible) you'll make decent money with AdSense, guaranteed.

FrostyMug




msg:1412704
 3:22 pm on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

not too late :)

miki99




msg:1412705
 3:30 pm on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Love this thread, thanks for all the inspiration. :-)

- Another Newbie

drall




msg:1412706
 5:51 pm on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you build junk it will get treated as such by Search, Adsense, Advertisers/Adwords, and most importantly your users. If you build a high quality spam free work of passion you will be rewarded.

europeforvisitors




msg:1412707
 6:27 pm on May 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

But the question is, if it is too late to start some new sites on specific high payed AdSense keywords and try to earn some money?

Probably. There have been lots of changes in the program since it began:

1) Advertisers now have blocking filters;

2) "Smart pricing" reduces earnings of publishers who go for easy money at the expense of advertisers;

3) Advertisers can now bid separately for the content network (unlike in the beginning, when one bid covered everything, there were no "smart pricing" discounts, and many advertisers didn't realize that they'd be included in the content network unless they opted out).

Also, the search engines (or at least Google) have become more wary of get-rich-quick, made-for-AdSense sites: which is why members here seldom talk of scrapers these days, but instead complain about "MFA" sites that use PPC arbitrage as a way to earn money.

I know that the "golden" days are over and that is now much harder to earn serious money. So answer please realistic. I would like to earn about 200-400$ a month.

I wouldn't call $200-400 month "serious money," but it represents a nice second income for many people. It shouldn't be too hard to make $200-400 month with a smallish but genuinely useful site on the right topic, though it won't happen overnight.

FourDegreez




msg:1412708
 1:59 am on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

You're talking like $10/day, and that is completely doable. When most people reach that the next goal is $100/day. Don't limit yourself by thinking too small!

I have to imagine getting some traffic in the beginning is the hardest thing for a newbie. When I roll out a new site and it needs some attention, I direct traffic to it from my other established sites. Newbies don't have that luxury, and that's got to be the hardest part.

pldaniels




msg:1412709
 2:45 am on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's only too late to start if you wait till tommorow... or the day after.

Start now.

If you hav a genuinely interesting site where people are already visiting then you've got a reasonably good chance.

$10/day is a good starting goal, one that I'm still working towards (sometimes I get very close, others I miss the target completely).

Focus on your content, keep it original - if it's good then the good adverts should follow.

kassius




msg:1412710
 3:37 am on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Its never to late to do anything in life!

With Google AdSense just dont do the mistake and build a site around Google AdSense but build a very useful niche site for your visitors, build a membership site, thats right a membership site but have it like "Join for free" for extra cool services/pages.

Then add google adsense ads when you have 10,000+ members.I see it a lot with new sites on the market with google ads on the top of there index page with other sites in the same market in the ads, so you send all your new visitors to other sites before they join yours or take a look around your site.

So mate build a "membership site" for long term money ; )

yummybanas




msg:1412711
 3:04 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's never too late. I just started a few months ago and I'm already making substantial revenue.

You just need to take action and aim high!

Forget $10 a day. Aim for $1000 a day and you'll probably reach $100/day.

woofwoof




msg:1412712
 4:11 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Neximus, it is far more beneficial to think in traffic rather than $$$.
Your Target $200-$400.

$1 cpm - 200,000 to 400,000 pageviews
$5 cpm - 40,000 to 80,000 pv's
$10 cpm - 20,000 to 40,000 pv's

Can you generate the required traffic in a sector that gives the desired cpm? In general the higher the cpm the harder it is to get traffic.

Many people in this thread are very optimistic about the future of online revenue, im not so sure, yes overall revenue will grow, but for whom? As the internet becomes richer in content (convergence of traditional media, large scale collaborative projects etc) can you compete? I think were moving to a point where crap article's, written by crap writer's with no relevant interest or experience aren't going to cut it any more. It also good to remember that search engines aren't getting any dumber.

I'm basing my current strategy such as it is on the assumption that only quality will produce in the relatively near future.
I think about this a lot, as my main revenue generators are not so hot.

ronburk




msg:1412713
 6:01 pm on May 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

But the question is, if it is too late to start some new sites on specific high payed AdSense keywords and try to earn some money?

The real question is: can you create a website that connects a large number of web surfers to products/services that they will be highly likely to buy?

Note the key words in that statement: create, connect, large number, products/services, buy. You can see that several things have to come together to make a successful site, not just traffic, not just high-paying keywords.

Moosetick




msg:1412714
 3:33 pm on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Forget $10 a day. Aim for $1000 a day and you'll probably reach $100/day.

I'm shooting for $100 billion/day. If I fail and only get half of that I'll still be happy.

Garry4Ads




msg:1412715
 8:38 pm on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am also new to AS and being in these forums for a month or so. I have registered couple of domains and built websites by professionals and as well by myself. I would like to know the importance of SEO for AdSence business. Your inputs are greatly appreciated.

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