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one visitor, clicks all over - is it valid?
Tearabite




msg:1393557
 7:31 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

my traffic is low enough that i can track who clicks what on most of my pages.
today i had a visitor come to my site (directly), read a bunch of pages, clicked a couple of ads, came back about 45 min later, viewed a few more pages, and clicked a few more ads, one time clicking 2 or 3 ads on one page.. (and some of these were very high paying ads!) He didn't click on ads on every page, only a few pages.

Should i consider this the 'perfect' visitor, or a suspicious one?

 

annej




msg:1393558
 7:34 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google seems to have a way to tell if someone clicks again and again and they don't pay you or charge the people with the ads.

I have problems that my site is used in classrooms and kids start playing around and clicking sometimes. Google explained that they take care of the problem and that I am not in trouble because it happens.

david_uk




msg:1393559
 7:36 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

I don't know - the pattern doesn't seem that weird. It may be that he's read the content on this and other visits so is using the ads as further resources. Can you check your logs to see if this visitor is a regular one?

piatkow




msg:1393560
 10:30 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have never tracked this behaviour through ads but I have seen in my logs the same visitor come back from the same link or search engine query on four or five occasions over a very short time (often within minutes).

It may be worth considering the browser as well. With Firefox I know that as I read a page I will open any reference that looks interesting in a new tab. I don't know if other users do this but with tabbed browsing I am far more likely to open links of only moderate interest that I was with IE.

incrediBILL




msg:1393561
 10:35 am on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

If your traffic is that low, give up now, this post costs more than I make in a minute.

Click fraud is a potential problem no matter what, I wouldn't worry about it.

Why do I say this?

There are thousands of proxy sites available and I could click the hell out of your site without repeating an IP address.

Now go back to working on your site and drink away yout paranoia.

crick




msg:1393562
 1:29 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

IncrediBill is becoming incredibly arrogant.

piatkow




msg:1393563
 2:12 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

incrediBILL, remember there are lots of sites out there for local voluntary organisations. Adsense is a mechanism for them to cover the costs of a web presence without diverting funds from the organisation's objectives. They won't make big bucks, but as long as the domain name and hosting are paid for they don't care.

TheDonster




msg:1393564
 2:20 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've had this happen many times on my site and Google always discounts the clicks right away. You get a visitor looking furiously for something on a specific page and just clicks on every single link on that page. I've had say 10 clicks on a unique channel with only five cents revenue. Probably the time delay combined with the IP address withholds the payment automatically.

wmuser




msg:1393565
 2:20 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

I heard it many times that Google has mechanism out there to detect real clicks from fake ones but there are also cases when Google has banned apublisher for it,however in those cases its possible that the publisher didnt disclosed "real" reason for ban

sonny




msg:1393566
 2:44 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

yesterday,I had 9 clicks on 8 visits on one site for nearly $7. Strange things can and do happen.
I wouldn't sweat it!

Green_Grass




msg:1393567
 2:54 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Happened a few times with me also. I got credit a few times and the other times, G discounted it. I suppose you can say G knows best.

best_Wish




msg:1393568
 3:33 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

well think why google ad are writen using java script!?

I think one reason would be to find persons real ip no matter what proxy you use.

correct me if I am wrong.

Tearabite




msg:1393569
 4:20 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

thanks guys..

since i got paid for all the clicks, i guess G decided that they were valid.

Now i guess i should get back to 'drinking away my paranoia' ..

gregbo




msg:1393570
 9:33 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

well think why google ad are writen using java script!?

I think one reason would be to find persons real ip no matter what proxy you use.

Actually, that would not work. Even if the javascript attempted to capture the IP address from the user's computer, the proxy could substitute any IP address for that IP address in that part of the data stream. The proxy's IP address would show up in the logs (assuming it's the site that opened the connection to the web server), because that is the IP address that is present in the IP packet header.

incrediBILL




msg:1393571
 9:45 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

IncrediBill is becoming incredibly arrogant.

Um, maybe I was IncrediDRUNK when I posted that ;)

brokenbricks




msg:1393572
 11:44 pm on Apr 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

...and what about Ad links? Someone clicks through and finds 7 interesting ads on the next page and proceeds to check all of them.

If that doesn't 'count' then that's BS.

toldan




msg:1393573
 12:22 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

my traffic is low enough that i can track who clicks what on most of my pages.
today i had a visitor come to my site (directly), read a bunch of pages, clicked a couple of ads, came back about 45 min later, viewed a few more pages, and clicked a few more ads, one time clicking 2 or 3 ads on one page.. (and some of these were very high paying ads!) He didn't click on ads on every page, only a few pages.
Should i consider this the 'perfect' visitor, or a suspicious one?

There are legitimate times when visitors can repeatedly click on your ads. For example, shopping comparison! That's a great example. You should not be worried about repeated clicks, unless you got 100's of them from same IP address.

zipit




msg:1393574
 4:08 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have said this one before. I have regular members (pretty much with the same ip addresses for themselves) that click on ads on a regular basis. It's not unusual.

I also have visitors that click on 3 to 5 ads in one visit. Not the same ads mind you, but apparently different ones.

Now I was told that was unusual. I don't know why I even thought that was the truth. I just looked at my own surfing habits.

When I am on a site and see an ad or text link that interests me then I click on it. I may or may not like the site that it takes me to and then hit the back button. I may then find another ad that might interest me and then click on that one.

What I have found is that so many good ads take you to sites that aren't really what I was looking for even though their ad said it was, or perhaps I just didn't like the site. Then again maybe I found what I wanted and then wanted to go back to the site I was originally at.

That is what they invented the back button for in the first place. :)

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