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cg6453




msg:1339922
 3:17 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

On my site besides informational pages I also have a lot of pages that just have images on them, the site itseld has over 3000 images. It would be very hard to put a description for every picture, any recommendations for the best kind of ads for these page, I used to use a leaderboard at the top of every picture page, but the CTR was very low. Would an image ad do better on an image only page, or should I not even waste my time trying to place ads on an image only page beacuse they would probably be low performing, any ideas?

 

Kanute




msg:1339923
 4:16 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I would say don't waste your time until you can add descriptions for the images. With just an image Google has no way of knowning anything about the picture/page and won't be able to deliver even semi relevent ads so your CTR would still be very low.

cruisesantarctica




msg:1339924
 4:47 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Please elaborate : Why would it be hard to describe each picture? Hard in a lot of work adding more html, or hard just to describe the picture?

Personally, I wouldn't add a picture add on a page that's main purpose is to show your picture.

Are your adds targetted? I came across a site with lots and lots of pictures, but the google adds where completely not about what you could see in the picture. So if the adds are out of context, your visitors won't be interested in reading them.

cg6453




msg:1339925
 5:16 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

The ads are not targeted when they were on the image page, it would be hard to add descriptions in terms of clutter beacuse most of the image pages have 20-30 pcitures and the pics are categorized by each page so the description would pretty be the same for every picture on that page

WebDon




msg:1339926
 5:25 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm new to AdSense but let me ask another question. Do all the images have appropriate ALT text? Wouldn't Google be able to provide targeted ads if it had good ALT text to draw on for page content?

billcale




msg:1339927
 7:46 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have pages of images - with alt text, relevant text on the page and caption areas under most images - and CTR is not so good. It has been reported by others here that image pages perform poorly on sites that otherwise have good CTR on most other pages.

Here's one possible cause: traffic comes to my image pages from links and searches on keywords like:
widget pictures; photos of purple widgets; pictures of big widgets; etc.
Those coming to my website DO SEE the appropriate pictures for their searches along with a wide range of ads for widgets. But there are no ads for "pictures of widgets", which I presume that many visitors would click, and without which, my CTR will stay low.

Cakkie




msg:1339928
 2:24 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've asked pretty much the same question the other week. [webmasterworld.com...]

Basically, one thing that's quite effective to get relevant ads is to use the url.

If you use http://example.com/showimage.php?id=123, you won't get relevant ads if the page itself contains few content.

If you use http://example.com/showimage.php?id=123&title=purple+widget, chances are high that you will get ads about purple widgets if the page contains few content.

billcale




msg:1339929
 5:52 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

There is not a big problem getting associated ads for images or image pages. This can be accomplished in a number of ways. The problem is finding and displaying relevant image ads for those image pages.

For instance:
A search for "pictures of 1998 Sports Cars" brings up your page of images for 1998 Sports Cars. On that page are AdSense ads for parts, manuals, wheels, restorations and Sports Cars for sale. A great range of ads that are associated with the theme of your page. However, the visitor only wanted to see - for whatever reason - pictures of 1998 Sports Cars. He got what he wanted, is finished with your site and didn't click one ad. Why? Because he was only looking for pictures. If there had been, say, one relevant ad "click here for 1998 Sports Cars images", most visitors might have clicked that one ad, looking for more images.

Adding text to the above page may enable it to be found in the search engines on searches for "1998 Sports Cars". Given the same AdSense ads as in the above example, you could expect some clicks. However, this is a lot more work than simply presenting images on a page. And you have the added complexity of SEO'ing the page in a much more competitive environment in order to have a chance at decent traffic.

Image pages seem like a fast and easy way to AdSense riches. However, for the overwhelming majority, that won't be the case. My advice would be for you to think long and hard before investing any time at all in image-based web pages. Unless you can put up large amounts of cheap domains with free images you find somewhere, the resultant CTR's won't produce much revenue and it'll just be a huge waste of time.

cg6453




msg:1339930
 8:11 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Anyone had any experience using adlinks on an image page, if so were they successful in reagrds to CTR and ECPM

billcale




msg:1339931
 8:24 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes, I use them in conjunction with the standard text ads and they seem to perform about the same.

OptiRex




msg:1339932
 8:30 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Anyone had any experience using adlinks on an image page, if so were they successful in reagrds to CTR and ECPM

Absolutely no problem whatsoever with either normal ads or Adlinks however to be successful you must complete your titlebars and all metatags and keyword descriptions along with the image alt tags.

Then you only need to add a one line description above or below the image. This, of course, assumes that you are going to display an enlarged image on a separate page as opposed to the general thumbnail style of page.

The thumbnail page still needs all alt tags completing with a generalised titlebar however with, preferably, all the image descriptions in the keywords etc too.

This will pay huge dividends vis-a-vis your competitors, assuming you have any?

I have two core sites each with 1,000+ image pages like this and nearly all rank #1 and have great targeted ads however, knowing your site, I wonder what kind of ads would be shown?

Vacation ads, security ads, residential ads?

OptiRex




msg:1339933
 8:37 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

And whilst I'm at it, you need to get all those thumbnail page images optimised...I pity anyone on a dial-up connection!

cg6453




msg:1339934
 8:47 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Optirex

have u been to my site? If so what would u recommend in terms of ads for the page or even any ideas for layout

OptiRex




msg:1339935
 1:26 am on Apr 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

cg6453

Yes, I know your site, very interesting:-)

You know where to find me!

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