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shorebreak

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Msg#: 13515 posted 7:45 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi there,

I'm trying to find a way to quickly categorize 50,000 keywords. Does anyone know of a tool that can help me figure out what categories 50,000 keywords belong in?

Thanks,
Shorebreak

 

andrea99



 
Msg#: 13515 posted 11:18 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

A match to the DMOZ index would be a Q&D way but you should download it. I don't think they like automated queries.

A true and original categorization would earn you a doctorate at a prestigeous university, a perfect taxonomy is the holy grail of AI.

mattg3

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Msg#: 13515 posted 11:45 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well a parallel processing massive database system with attached logic computer aka human needs years to learn a language, let alone categorize all included words. Language is largely a model system consisting of logic and unlogic rules and based massively on empirics.

Unless you have massive database resources and endless rulesets, I think this holy grail will stay a da Vinci Code for a while.

Of course you can built massive models but they might only deliver a partially pragmatical solution and not an analytical one. Which is obvioulsy wanted in this case.

Hence DMOZ or any human created tree is, I guess, the way to go. ;)

dollarshort

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Msg#: 13515 posted 1:02 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

You are obviously building a scraper, as keywords form the foundation of a typical scraper.

andrea99



 
Msg#: 13515 posted 2:28 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Keywords form the foundation of many legitimate endeavors, I don't think it's obvious that scraping is the goal here. And I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to try to build a profitable site for AdSense by categorizing keywords. It's bad only if no value is added and the keywords are used to generate traffic illegitimately.

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 13515 posted 3:07 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's bad only if no value is added...

How many people who use lists of keywords as the foundations of their Web sites are "adding value"? One in a hundred? One in a thousand?

I'd guess that most keyword-driven, made-for-AdSense sites have about as much "added value" as datafeed affiliate sites do.

andrea99



 
Msg#: 13515 posted 4:09 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

How many people who use lists of keywords as the foundations of their Web sites are "adding value"? One in a hundred? One in a thousand?

I don't think you know or are qualified to judge. Why are you so self-righteously indignant? Google for one, extensively uses lists of keywords as the foundations of their business(es) and occasionally they do so without adding value.

I don't question your motives EFV, perhaps we should look at that...

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 13515 posted 5:26 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Why are you so self-righteously indignant?

I'm not "self-righteously indignant," I'm simply being realistic. And the Google comparison makes so sense at all.

andrea99



 
Msg#: 13515 posted 6:15 am on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

And the Google comparison makes so sense at all.

Unless you think about it. Many people, myself included, share Google's mission of organizing all knowledge.

Well, if you can't make that connection I won't belabor the point but it seems entirely sensible to me and has served me well. I use keywords all the time in an effort to organize and discover things. Perhaps you've just never thought of this. You should try it.

bbcarter

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Msg#: 13515 posted 6:56 pm on Apr 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm not certain if it will take that many entries, but when I want to categorize a list of keywords, I use Mark Horrell's keyword density analyzer and find out what the most frequent 5-10 words are, then I go back to Excel and filter the list by each of those... maybe not fast enough for 50,000 kws tho.

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