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How to make $400 a day from Adsense?
Free Plan to make $400 a day from adsense
pockan




msg:1322327
 4:01 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Plz excuse me on my grubby English 'm not native English
Double a penny every day for a month and what do you get? Over ten million dollars! That's the power of exponential growth, and the Internet is the one medium that can harness that power...that also for free.

Just think over this plan following, I am not calling you to screw around all the day with this ,but I mean you can try this. It is an interesting thought on a possible new use for an old concept.

Just do following
1.Just create a web page with Auto responder web form to collect emails and follow the opt in list with daily messages from the auto responder (eg aweber).
Use adwords/other ppcs and offline news paper ads (try online banners as well) to gt optins sign in to your DB.

2.Now go and make a group of web pages with similar anchor text and key words ( home jobs, insurance etc). Just try some Blogs too.
3.Drive the opt in list of e mail subscribers to these pages and hope a person should see minimum 3 pages per day (rotating through entire data base of pages).
This will go with TOS of adsense
Studies show each 2 visit will bring a click on ads ( 10 cents! hmm not bad)
A moderate DB of 10000 verified e mails can easily get 8000 P V (Page Visits) and 4000 clicks on Ad Sense ads. and $400 a day. 12k a month and 140 k a year. (DB will grow with earning)
It's all about focusing on that opt in email data base and its growth, and also on "cleverly" driving them to click ads. (TOS - never compel/force any one to click ads)
I mean additions to this as applies to building a relationship with site visitors, and giving them a reason to return. Let them add their links and text of their choice and feed backs to your web pages.
Try to make more page and blogs with adsense and continue this
How/what do you think about this? I am too zapped to help you right now. Please find your self more.

In the coming days, I am going to thoroughly cover the intricacies of making money online through adsense and affiliate programs as well. If any one can give me a better plan to try I will be happier.
Regards
Pockan

[edited by: pockan at 4:14 am (utc) on Mar. 9, 2006]

 

roycerus




msg:1322328
 4:09 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hate to break the day dreaming but how exactly will you get that qualified DB of email addresses? That too 10000 email addresses out of which 4000 will visit you daily AND also give you two page views? And 1 click per 2 page visits? Well that's a 50% clickthrough. And 10 cents per click? I don't understand how you think that everything will be so consistent. It doesn't work like that. Or are you saying that this is already working for you?

pockan




msg:1322329
 4:16 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Use offline news paper ads , printed notice , ad words
to get OPTINS

bether2




msg:1322330
 4:37 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

1.Just create a web page with Auto responder web form to collect emails and follow the opt in list with daily messages from the auto responder (eg aweber).

How many people do you think will stay on your list if you send them a message every day? Unless you have some outstanding content to offer in the email, I don't think you'll end up with many.

pockan




msg:1322331
 4:41 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

why can't we go for news updates and other interesting ways to keep them visiting again and again
Just provide them a reason to visit pages
what do you think?

Porkchop




msg:1322332
 5:05 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Celebrity gossip would be a good subject that they would want to check out every day.

Frequent




msg:1322333
 5:07 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think you need to look at this from your personal perspective. How many emails do you get a day? How many of those do you actually read? How many of those emails actually get you to click through to the site? How many days in a row do you click through to a site from an email from the same sender? My guess is that honestly answering these questions will make you realize that your "dream projections" are not based in reality.

Other than my own sites, there is only one site that I visit daily... Google (specifically adsense). Oh, and I can't even recall the last time I've followed a link in an email.

Granted, I am not an "average" user. But you still have to give the average users out there a little credit. Unless you are giving away truly desirable, fresh content daily, and getting people personally invested in the site, they will only visit so often.

Freq---

whywhywhy




msg:1322334
 5:32 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

the best method for me is:

make content
update content daily
find visitor
indesx my website in search engin
build customer loyalty
and make money

Without content a website cannot make money (is my opinion)

acme2005




msg:1322335
 6:29 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

why why told truth

good content is important, and update the content
celebrity gossips and daily (free ) updates of home job news can bring wonderful traffic


Swebbie




msg:1322336
 6:45 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

One part of the plan is a great idea regardless: building a mailing list. Even a once-weekly email can give you a once-weekly adsense boost. Nothing wrong with that. Put up 10 sites that are on the same niche, with a different focus for each. Make your email newsletter about a topic related to a different one of those sites and rotate through them. The list will grow from sign-ups on each of the 10 sites. Pick a general topic that you love to branch into the 10 sites. It won't happen fast, but over time (a year, say), you'll have a nice list that you can advertise to over and over. Make the focus good content (on the sites and in the email newsletter) and you won't have a big drop-out rate. People who appreciate your newsletter content will be more likely to visit your sites and click around. I think it's a good business model, if you have the time and the patience.

incrediBILL




msg:1322337
 6:54 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I used to run my opt-in only mail list and every time I ran it one wacko would complain about spamming to my upstream, and for the love of god be careful if you've registered with GoDaddy and run a list as they've been reported shutting down domains and holding them hostage for $199 or $299 to turn them back on.

Caution is the word.

jetteroheller




msg:1322338
 8:58 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Use offline news paper ads , printed notice , ad words
to get OPTINS

Great advice to spend $400 a day.

I know people spending $400 a day for newspaper ads.

This people have usual 100 different real estate offers for $50.000 to $500.000 to sell with this ads.

wildbest




msg:1322339
 10:48 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I used to run my opt-in only mail list and every time I ran it one wacko would complain about spamming to my upstream....

It's not a surprise, because IT IS A SPAM! If you send spam to peoples mailboxes it is quite natural they will report you for that spam...

... and for the love of god be careful if you've registered with GoDaddy and run a list as they've been reported shutting down domains and holding them hostage for $199 or $299 to turn them back on.

Thumbs up for GoDaddy! This is the way to deal with spammers.

trillianjedi




msg:1322340
 10:54 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

double every month

The last company to achieve close to that (but not quite) on the internet was Skype (with it's userbase).

Prior to that, it was Google (with # of users and daily searches performed) between 1999 and 2001.

The point? It takes a seriously clever or downright brilliant concept or product to achieve that level of growth.

Viral marketing is an incredibly powerful tool (and on the net, the single most powerful tool), but it requires the right concept behind it to work.

TJ

davec




msg:1322341
 11:16 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

t's not a surprise, because IT IS A SPAM!

How exactly is it spam if it's an opt-in email list you've cultivated yourself. I'm inclined to agree with incredibill - running email lists can be a lot of hassle at times, even if they can be effective at driving repeat visits.

d

rich_b




msg:1322342
 11:18 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's not a surprise, because IT IS A SPAM!

You must have missed the bit about his list being Opt-in only. Therefore it is not spam because it's solicited mail.

whbiz




msg:1322343
 12:38 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I make more than $400 a day WITHOUT using autoresponders or advertising in Adwords. I just create great content that my audience needs and other websites can't help but link to it.

Great content, coupled with the right audience (audience interested in ads) are what you need to make $400+ per day.

wildbest




msg:1322344
 1:46 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

You must have missed the bit about his list being Opt-in only.

Not at all! How did you know that is me opting-in?

Everybody can opt-in in everybody's database with a fake email address. That is why it is not enough to offer opt-in/out feature. Before you start sending your spam offers/newsletters what you need to do is obtain a confirmation from the email address owner! There is only one way to do that - send a request to the email address and get back a response/confirmation from the same email address.

Have you sent a "confirmation request" email to that email address? I suppose you did not! That is why I am reporting the spam I get from you. I don't see why should I opt-out as I have never opted-in!

G_Smitty




msg:1322345
 2:06 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Not at all! How did you know that is me opting-in?

I was about to state "how is opting-in spam?" But then I read you post and would have to agree.

I constantly receive Spam stating that I opted in when in fact I did not.

Wildbest you are right on target.

Jafo




msg:1322346
 2:07 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Everybody can opt-in in everybody's database with a fake email address. That is why it is not enough to offer opt-in/out feature. Before you start sending your spam offers/newsletters what you need to do is obtain a confirmation from the email address owner! There is only one way to do that - send a request to the email address and get back a response/confirmation from the same email address.

One could say that using that logic, the confirmation is unsolicited.. A catch 22.

It doesn't matter if you get a confirmation, or even a recording on the telephone from the user saying "please put me on your mailing list" most ISP's will shut you down if someone merely complains. They don't spend the time to even ask you if the complaint is valid.

In the end, I just got my own pipe, my own servers, and send my mailings out myself.

My mailing list has been built over the last 5 years, and I record the email address, IP address and a couple of other things. Every email I send allows users to opt out and comes from a valid email address.

When I get a spam complaint from someone, I send them the info they signed up with, noting how the IP address/range of their complaint email matches with the email sign up log, and to be more careful when they sign up for mailing lists.

With all that being said, the original idea in this thread is foobar.

wildbest




msg:1322347
 2:42 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

One could say that using that logic, the confirmation is unsolicited.. A catch 22.

No, it is not. I know when people take the hassle to report the spam. They would never do it from the first email they got from a spammer. 99.99% of them will report spam if only they get persistent spam emails. IF you do not get a confirmation from a certain email address, you should forget about that email address. But you continue to send spam despite that you've got no confirmation and, of course, the genuine email owner will report your abuse.

It doesn't matter if you get a confirmation, or even a recording on the telephone from the user saying "please put me on your mailing list" most ISP's will shut you down if someone merely complains. They don't spend the time to even ask you if the complaint is valid.

Of course, this is the right thing to do. And what does "merely" mean? A complaint is a complaint. There is no such thing as "mere" complaint!

In the end, I just got my own pipe, my own servers, and send my mailings out myself.

Does that make you less of a spammer?

Every email I send allows users to opt out and comes from a valid email address. When I get a spam complaint from someone, I send them the info they signed up with, noting how the IP address/range of their complaint email matches with the email sign up log, and to be more careful when they sign up for mailing lists.

You may say whatever you want or what suits you, but YOU have to prove - the one that opted-in is the owner of the email address that they opted-in with! If you can not prove that you should be brought to a court of law. It's simple.

creativepart




msg:1322348
 2:46 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

If I had a dollar for every spam email that claimed to come from an "opt-in list" I wouldn't need $400 a day.

Nobody wants more email. Opt-in or otherwise.

And, if you bombard folks that truely did "opt-in" with once a week emails it will be considered spam by the recipients as soon as the 3rd week.

Face it, most mass email is spam.

OptiRex




msg:1322349
 3:07 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good grief there are some "holier than thou" attitudes in this thread!

Some of you really do need some fresh air...

pockan




msg:1322350
 3:59 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

if optin emailing and auto responders are spam then there is no e mail marketing

what is spam?
plz listen
spam is a indiscriminately send unsolicited, unwanted, irrelevant, or inappropriate messages, especially commercial advertising in mass quantities. that is junk e mail .

Opt in is service you are optin to use.
it is To agree to receive promotional e-mails when registering on a particular website from the site owner and other companies to whom he or she may rent your e-mail address to.

don't mix up - they are miles apart

and more

The CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act) establishes requirements for those who send commercial email, spells out penalties for spammers and companies whose products are advertised in spam if they violate the law, and gives consumers the right to ask emailers to stop spamming them.

so plz tell me how can you say i am spamming when I
Email to my optin list

Regards
Pockan

wildbest




msg:1322351
 4:20 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Opt in is service you are optin to use...

How do you know I have opted-in your service?

so plz tell me how can you say i am spamming when I Email to my optin list

Your opt-in list is... your opt-in list. I have nothing to do with it.
Why should I care what is in your opt-in list and if my email address is in there? My email address can be passed to your spam database by thousands of people, including my competitors passing to you our support email address to get it cluttered with bullsh*t. Why do you think I should be responsible for why my email address is in YOUR opt-in list?

pockan




msg:1322352
 5:34 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

If i have verified optin- then?
That is a closed loop OptIn
plz understand what is verified optin email?

Verified Opt-in- The Recipient has verifiably confirmed permission for the address to be included on the specific mailing list, by confirming (responding to) the list subscription request verification.
This is the standard practice for all Internet mailing lists, it ensures users are properly subscribed from a working address and with the address owner's consent.
HERE
The Bulk Email Sender is fully and legally protected because the reply to the Subscription Confirmation Request received back from the recipient proves that the recipient did in fact opt-in and grant verifiable consent for the mailings.

Can you complain spam? (In this case)

what do you say?


Jafo




msg:1322353
 5:42 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

No, it is not. I know when people take the hassle to report the spam. They would never do it from the first email they got from a spammer. 99.99% of them will report spam if only they get persistent spam emails. IF you do not get a confirmation from a certain email address, you should forget about that email address. But you continue to send spam despite that you've got no confirmation and, of course, the genuine email owner will report your abuse.

You know? How is it you know, or is this just anecdotal "everyone does what I do" evidence? Let's face the truth here, if someone reports the confirmation email as spam, the ISP will see it as spam and not even ask you to verify it, it happens every day. Heck, all you have to do is report any email to spamcop and they will mark it as spam no questions asked.

Of course, this is the right thing to do. And what does "merely" mean? A complaint is a complaint. There is no such thing as "mere" complaint!

merely (mr'le;) pronunciation adv.

And nothing else or more; only: merely a flesh wound.

Meaning they just complain and nothing else or more. In otherwords, they don't also send lawyers to the ISP. No charge for the English lesson today.

Does that make you less of a spammer?

You may say whatever you want or what suits you, but YOU have to prove - the one that opted-in is the owner of the email address that they opted-in with! If you can not prove that you should be brought to a court of law. It's simple.

Who said I was a spammer? Opt-in is not a requirement of the can spam act of which it appears you know little about.

From the FTC website:

# It bans false or misleading header information. Your email's "From," "To," and routing information including the originating domain name and email address must be accurate and identify the person who initiated the email.

# It prohibits deceptive subject lines. The subject line cannot mislead the recipient about the contents or subject matter of the message.

# It requires that your email give recipients an opt-out method. You must provide a return email address or another Internet-based response mechanism that allows a recipient to ask you not to send future email messages to that email address, and you must honor the requests. You may create a "menu" of choices to allow a recipient to opt out of certain types of messages, but you must include the option to end any commercial messages from the sender.

The only requirement is to opt out.

[edited by: Jafo at 5:43 pm (utc) on Mar. 9, 2006]

G_Smitty




msg:1322354
 5:42 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Verified Opt-in- The Recipient has verifiably confirmed permission for the address to be included on the specific mailing list, by confirming (responding to) the list subscription request verification.
This is the standard practice for all Internet mailing lists, it ensures users are properly subscribed from a working address and with the address owner's consent.

I have personally never received a verified Opt-in-. I have never given permission nor signed up, yet I still receive tons of spam from legitimate companies saying that I have signed up.

Swebbie




msg:1322355
 5:44 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Opt-in can mean either single or double opt-in. Double opt-in is when you send an immediate confirmation and do not add that recipient until he has responded to confirm. Single opt-in will run you afoul of some spam laws in certain situations. Double opt-in has never resulted in a spam lawsuit. The rest of this is just the same tired old commercial email arguments from 1998.

incrediBILL




msg:1322356
 5:47 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's not a surprise, because IT IS A SPAM! If you send spam to peoples mailboxes it is quite natural they will report you for that spam.

NO, it is NOT SPAM when you register somewhere and check that little box that says "YES, Keep me updated about site events"!

That would be like Brett sending an email to all WebmasterWorld members and someone forgetting they registered here and complaining they were spammed.

I just got sick of dealing with the wackos, like people that can't read what I write here, and stopped sending email.

Now my members are lucky if I'll even reply to them let alone broadcast an email ;)

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