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gsxraddict




msg:1400897
 3:07 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Why doesn't anyone list some of their websites they own?

Im just curious to see who owns what, and the quality of their content.

 

david_uk




msg:1400898
 3:08 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Posting url's is against the WWW rules apparently.

anand84




msg:1400899
 3:13 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

and also people would not want to let their niches that they so hardly penetrated into be let known.

Curiosity visits lessening your CTR is another factor.

humblebeginnings




msg:1400900
 4:34 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

You are allowed to put your URL in your user profile, but you haven't done that yourself.

europeforvisitors




msg:1400901
 4:59 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Homepage URLs are displayed only in the profiles of full members or higher.

gsxraddict




msg:1400902
 5:34 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

well guys I wasn't sure. I was just curious, I didn't think it was a big deal.

I just asked the question, not forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to do.

If its against some sort of rules, then I was not aware. Im new to this.

gsxraddict




msg:1400903
 5:36 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I also updated my profile.

my URL is there, even though I have no content on my site yet.

europeforvisitors




msg:1400904
 5:55 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Your URL won't show until you're a full member.

As to why many (most?) members don't choose to display their URLs, there are several reasons:

1) Some members don't want to draw attention to themselves or their sites (especially from Google).

2) Some members are paranoid about "click attacks," content theft, etc.

3) Some members have what could be called the "AOL mindset," which is expressed in the famous NEW YORKER cartoon by P. Steiner where a dog at a computer terminal tells a canine friend: "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."

jomaxx




msg:1400905
 5:57 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

There's no shortage of websites to look at that run AdSense. You can evaluate the quality of their content just as easily.

Most of us feel there's nothing to be gained from having people know what you're up to. Let slip that you're making $10,000 a click, and if people see you have a site dedicated to "aircraft carriers" then bingo: 500 newbies set themselves up as competitors to you.

Rumbas




msg:1400906
 6:28 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Welcome to the forum gsxraddict.

Think most of it has aldready been covered.

So sorry for sounding a bit rude, but are you out of your mind? Would you post your sites for everyone to look at, copy and steal ideas from? ;)

Furthermore, imagine you used, errrrm, some gray hat tactics on your site and somebody else posted it as theirs. The search engine reps might see the post and decide to nuke the site from the index. Not good.. THAT's one of the reasone we don't allow url drops or do "review my site" threads.

humblebeginnings




msg:1400907
 6:34 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

gsxr,

Sorry if I have been some sort of rude, was typing rather quickly cause I was heading for the can;-)
Welcome to Webmaster World!
And indeed, as the others say, people are trying to be careful with their 'trade secrets'. If I know how to make gold from mud, I would be rich. Unless I would tell others how I do it. In that case my gold would be worthless in a day!

martinibuster




msg:1400908
 6:50 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hey, Thanks in advance to everyone who has ever posted their URL or will post their URL!

I have a team of writers who will be paraphrasing your site immediately, as well as running your content through a software that does this too. Our goal for today is to crank out ten copies of your site.

My teams in India and the Philipines will start a link campaign on Monday, and by the end of the month we will hopefully blow you out of the serps.

I am not a gentleman, I am a businessman. I'm in it for the money, and you just lost yours.

It's too late to remove your URL from your profiles because not only have I already downloaded the entire contents of your site, but so have many others.

Cheers!
;)

Woo hoo!

Just kidding... sort of.

europeforvisitors




msg:1400909
 7:21 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hey, Thanks in advance to everyone who has ever posted their URL or will post their URL!

I have a team of writers who will be paraphrasing your site immediately, as well as running your content through a software that does this too. Our goal for today is to crank out ten copies of your site.

Sure, and Hollywood film studios shouldn't let anyone know the names of their movies, bands shouldn't let the word get out that they've recorded albums, book authors should ask publishers not to promote their books, and companies that make clothing or widgets should sell their products under the table to avoid knock-offs.

Come to think of it, Webmasters should block the major search crawlers with their robots.txt files, just to make sure that nobody discovers their sites in Google, Yahoo, or MSN and copies them. :-)

humblebeginnings




msg:1400910
 8:04 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Interesting point of view EFV,
So you make the consideration; publishing your URL on a place like WW brings you both risk and opportunity.
You consider the opportunities worthwhile taking the risk. Hence your url in your profile and your nickname. Making a lotta posts on WW sure has the advantage that the name of your website is sort of paved on the Internet by now;-)
Do you really never experience disadvantages, like copycats or whatever?

europeforvisitors




msg:1400911
 8:09 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I occasionally run across copied content, but I haven't encountered as many problems with infringement as some members have reported. And while Webmaster World may well attract its share of content thieves or copycats, the search engines probably attract a lot more.

Maybe the best way to avoid such problems is to hire a search engine optimizer who'll guarantee to keep your pages out of the top 10 or 20 search results for competitive phrases. :-)

martinibuster




msg:1400912
 10:15 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sure, and Hollywood film studios shouldn't let anyone know the names of their movies, bands shouldn't let the word get out that they've recorded albums...

That's apples and oranges.

First, let me clarify that I'm not saying it's foolish to be out in the open with your website. But it will limit the extent of what you can discuss in public. Dispensing good advice is one thing. Discussing your intimate business strategy is probably not a good thing if your site is public knowledge.

Business strategy is proprietary.
I have many good friends from WebmasterWorld and we rarely if ever mention specific domains. We know each others children, and details about each other's marriages and personal history; I have invited many into my home and have been invited into the homes of some of these SEOs and had dinner and lunch with and without family... but I don't invite any of them into the specifics of my business- and neither do they. It's the proper way to conduct oneself, perhaps more so in this industry.

Here is the Apple
Although you, EFV, are out in the open about your site, you don't talk numbers, and you don't reveal the details of how you cultivate your links, and you don't reveal the details of every partnership or content swap you strike. You don't talk about competitors and what you may have done to screw them (not saying you screwed anyone, that's your business). It's nobody's business. And that's a good way to conduct oneself, especially when your site is out in the open.

Now Here are the Oranges
For the rest of us who might reveal how much we make monthly, who may talk about cutting corners, who talk about purchasing expired domains, who may talk about how we filed a spam report against a competitor, privacy and discretion is essential. It's of the essence.

Here's food for thought
Several years ago someone apparently became envious or objected to something I said. So they decided on a path of cowardly revenge by spamming my website. I had to ban an entire country to make it stop.

Do you think the URL in my profile is my REAL site?

danny




msg:1400913
 10:29 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Let slip that you're making $10,000 a click, and if people see you have a site dedicated to "aircraft carriers" then bingo: 500 newbies set themselves up as competitors to you.

Heh, the conversion rate selling aircraft carriers must be pretty low, but the earnings would be alright. Anyone know of an affiliate program for naval vessels?

incrediBILL




msg:1400914
 10:30 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

but I haven't encountered as many problems with infringement as some members have reported

EFV, you have no clue how people can use your content against you and it's not just wholesale infringement. I've shown Martini a few samples of what scrapers are doing and it's mindblowing how they are filtering out high density phrases from various web sites and building KEYWORD traps on their sites to compete with you for the 3+ word phrases in the search engines.

It's very subtle and often hard to find as you have no clue which snippet has been used from your site and only since I started spewing out error messages to rogue bots has it become easy for me to spot them as they don't seem to go back and verify my site spits out the same content once they set up the scrapers for auto-gen site builders.

Hundreds of sites have been banned from search engines and dozens of people appear to have lost AdSense accounts because of my reporting them for this and they just keep scraping so I'm all for them killing themselves at this point.

If you could only see what I'm now blocking on a daily basis you would probably fall off your chair in disbelief.

It's a prime example of AdSense Darwinism in action and this time I'm on top of the gene pool, not the scrapers.

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