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Why Do Adsensers Dread The Title "WEBMASTER"?
Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants, Astronauts Are Proud Of Their Profession
Mistra

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 10:39 am on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

It is funny to read the thread started by spaceylacie (i.e. When people ask, "So, what do you do?" [webmasterworld.com...] ) and how it was renamed as "The Question Every Webmaster Dreads: "What do you do for a living?" at Webmasterword's home page.

I think it should be renamed "Every Adsenser Dreads" instead of "Webmaster."

Being a full time webmaster for more than 6 years, I am proud of this profession. I think webmaster is a glamorous job just like lawyer, doctor, accountant, pilot, and actors even though I am not earning as much as them.

Those who should dread about being asked "What do you do for a living?" should be toilet cleaners, rubbish collectors, undertakers, etc. Here in Singapore (according to an article published by a local newspaper), these are the peoples who find it difficult to find a date, because women here do not find these jobs "glamorous." They do not want to tell others that their husbands are working as a toilet cleaner, coffin maker, etc.

Dear Adsensers,

Why do you dread the question "What do you do for a living?"?

I can't think of any other reasons why you dread this question except that either:

(1) You are not really a webmaster or web developer and have no knowledge of web programming. Therefore, you are afraid to tell others that you are a webmaster. You are afraid that others might ask you some tough programming questions.

(2) You are being greedy. This I can understand. If you are a goldminer and you found gold, of course you do not want to tell others about it.

(3) You are afraid of generating false clicks from well-intended friends. This is the number one reason I do not want others to know that I am affiliated with Google.

Is there a Toiletcleanerworld forum? Will anyone pay to be a member of such forum? I can't find such forum. Therefore, I think every webmaster should be proud of their profession. Only Adsensers are having trouble telling others about what they are doing for a living that is due to certain reasons that is difficult to explain.

 

Sobriquet

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 5:08 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

i remember a time when i was looking for fancy title for myself, some 8 years ago. i printed ' Internet Explorer' under my name - sounds too silly now, but it did get a lot attention at that time.

pesently, my card says - Chief Web Master ( CWM )

bts111

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 5:52 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

My new cards are going to say - Chief cook and bottle washer.

Aircut

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 6:05 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

good for me. i am both a physician and a webmaster! and my card says

Dr. Name Founder of mydomanin name

david_uk

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 8:28 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'd go with the deffinition of webmaster as the person who does the the coding, and can be an employee or the site owner. As a profession it's perfectly honourable IMHO - I know a guy who was employed by a large chemicals concern in the UK as webmaster, and he did very nicely out of his time there.

I don't think that it stopped him getting dates - maybe it should have done, as he was married at the time!

I'm not a professional in that AS is not family's main income source (I have a day job), therefore I'm not sure what I would call myself should I rely on it as my main income. I think I'd lean more to the publishing angle, purely because that is a better deffinition of what I actually do, being the site owner.

I don't tend to discuss my site with people I know purely because I don't want to generate invalid clicks. I am proud of my site, but I also want to remain in Adsense. I'm guessing that at some point one of the people I know is going to search for the information my site provides and choke to death on a biscuit when they see my picture on the front page of the site!

As regards the "Little Damian next door does that" syndrome - the comment is a purely ignorant one, and anyone used to having this said to them should develop a nice line in polite put-downs. I'm sure that there are ways to politely point out that "There is a difference between publishing a site that's in the top rankings of the search engines because of content, and a jokey site of photographs of the kids' bogies (Boogers in the US?) - you ignorant schmuck".

david_uk

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 8:55 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Only the ones who use FrontPage or using a free blog system can't actually say that they are really webmasters.

I don't think you can use this to define who is, and who isn't a webmaster. I use front page to construct tables, and use a very plain text editor to code in, mainly because the editor I use is geared to writing .asp. Because I don't use dreamweaver (or whatever the fashion this week is) that doesn't mean I can't call myself a webmaster - should I choose to call myself that.

After all, content is what matters - not the package used to crank out pages.

larryhatch

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 2:36 pm on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I see nothing wrong or distasteful about calling oneself a 'webmaster'.
I worked for ages as a professional musician, I even have a college degree in music.
Sure every teeny-bopper in a garage group can call himself a musician if he wants,
and everybody with a Geocities site can pretend he/she is a webmaster.

Once I retire from my job in electronics, I plan to call myself a webmaster.

The touchy issue is Adsense sites. I would keep the domain names strictly private,
or else refer them to a site (like mine) without any bogus-click liabilities.

Otherwise, I'd be proud to call myself a webmaster. Its a respectable profession.

If somebody is too dumb to see the difference between my work and a trashy Geocities
offering, flashy scrolling mis-spelled doo-doo in large print, all upper case,
then I don't much care what they think.

It was never my mission to impress morons. Is the bar still open? [burp!]

Event_King



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 8:49 pm on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>>>I think webmaster is a glamorous job just like lawyer, doctor, accountant, pilot, and actors even though I am not earning as much as them.<<<<<<

You clearly don't know what's involved in order to be a barrister or medical doctor. And 1 year of training to be a qualified doctor can only be compared to that of Vet, although studying to be a Vet is considered much tougher than a doctor's training as Animals have a different body structure to that of humans - not to mention the number of species of animal, pet etc.

You can't call being a webmaster glamourous as it's not a job for the FEW.
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My definition of a webmaster: 'A person who makes a living on the web'. It has nothing to do with web design as that really is part of the I.T industry.

Webmaster means nothing at all -people will still ask what it means and what you do...

danny

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 12:42 am on Jan 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm a book reviewer (and a traveller, activist, etc. etc.) who maintains web sites to publish my book reviews (and travelogues, etc.). So I'd never tell anyone that I was "a webmaster".

Event_King



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 2:58 am on Jan 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I agree. Be truthful and accurate about what you do -that way there can be no deception or misunderstanding.

People will respect that.

gendude

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 7:54 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Let's look at it another way - what if the majority of your time spent is creating your content? Those who do well with AdSense, etc., generally most of their time is spent writing, and not twiddling around with the actual site itself.

Or think of it like this:
You might spend a day or two or three setting up the site itself - that's a one time thing.

After the site is physically up, you might spend a day or two a month going through the site, tweaking ads, layout, etc. at which point you are a graphics designer and webmaster for a day.

You might spend 15-30 minutes a day checking logs, plugging in a few numbers into your spreadsheet (it seems like most of us have a spreadsheet to track stats).

You also might spend 15- 30 minutes a day checking AdSense, and other such revenue-generating areas.

The rest of the time you are either looking or thinking about new things to write about, or you are writing.

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One day a month you're a graphics designer/layout person and webmaster.

15-30 minutes a day your an accountant.

15-30 minutes a day you are a webmaster/statistician.

80-90% of the day you are a researcher/writer and publisher.

Does it make sense to call yourself a webmaster?

Wouldn't it be the equivalent of calling yourself a professional driver because you drove yourself to the grocery store and mall, which took upto an hour that day? Wouldn't it be like calling yourself a mechanic because you checked the oil in your car and put some air in your tires?

There's nothing wrong with calling yourself a webmaster, but it makes more sense to say what you spend the majority of time doing, which is writing.

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 12:53 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Why are so many of you having a problem describing a webmaster's functions when Wikipedia already has it perfectly?

A webmaster (or webmistress for females) is a person responsible for designing, developing, marketing, or maintaining website(s). The term webservant is used sometimes used when the person is providing such services to a church or charity. The webmaster of a website may also be called a system administrator, the author of a site, or the website administrator.

Webmasters are practitioners of web communication. They are responsible for all aspects of an organization's web presence, including web content development, technical operations, and business management. They may have specific areas of expertise, but are most valuable as generalists who can manage all aspects of web operations.

On a smaller site, the webmaster will typically be the owner, designer, developer and/or programmer, in addition to writing the actual content.

On larger sites, the webmaster will act as a coordinator and overseer to the activities of other people working on the site and is usually an employee of the owner of the website, hence webmaster can also be listed as an occupation. If the webmaster is hired by a larger website, or promoted to the position, he could be doing things ranging from system administrating work, to managing large projects, and making sure everyone is doing there jobs correctly.

Another, broader, definition of webmaster is a businessperson who uses online media to sell products and/or services. This broader definition of webmaster covers not just the technical aspects of overseeing website construction and maintenance but also management of content, advertising, marketing, and order fulfillment for the website.

Core responsibilities of the webmaster include the regulation and management of access rights of different users of a website, the appearance or design of a website, and setting up website navigation. Content placement can be part of a webmaster's responsibilities, while content creation is typically regarded as something that is not part of what a webmaster does. But on a site the webmaster is creating independently, the webmaster is usually the person who creates the content.

There ya go, everyone happy now? :-)

peewhy

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 12:57 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

New media engineer

Leosghost

WebmasterWorld Senior Member leosghost us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 1:26 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

although studying to be a Vet is considered much tougher than a doctor's training as Animals have a different body structure to that of humans - not to mention the number of species of animal, pet etc.

Actually the hardest part is that they can't walk in to the surgery and tell you where it hurts , how long it has hurt for , what kind of hurt is it etc ..

twist

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 11522 posted 5:58 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I take photos and have owned mutliple digital cameras. I have multiple lenses and tripods. I travel and have taken over 20,000 photos. I, in no way, consider myself a photographer nor do I try to pass myself off as one. There is a lot more to being a photographer than pushing the button down on a camera.

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