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| 12:22 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Not yet, their payment info page says they'll post within 30 days, so they should be mailed by today and reaching you next week.
| 12:31 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Well now is week-and :(
We are waiting for google.
I waited for 30 days.
I can wait 2 more :)
I think is becouse of TAX related info
| 1:11 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Why do we have to go through this every month? Checks will be mailed by the 30th of the following month, and depending on where you live, will arrive anytime after that. If you live in the US, it can be within days, if you live in the UK, it can take up to 3 weeks, and some countries can take even longer.
I don't think posting "I have / have not received my cheque yet" actually helps the community :) Cheques arrive when they arrive and posting about it won't make Google send your check any faster.
| 2:44 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
DaveN - Google reads these forums, so unless you work for google, how do you know that they won't see that people are courious and make a bigger effort to send the cheques faster?
Also, I think that for some people, knowing when others ( like people in the US ) recieve their cheques, they'll know when they will get theirs.
While Google says they will send out the cheques before the 30th of the month, it can be anywhere from the 10th to the 30th... so that in itself doesn't provide much help.
| 3:41 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Google has consistently mailed checks in the last few days of the thirty days. Because of the auditing of accounts, it is understandable why they take all or most of the full 30 days.
And even if Google sees this thread, it won't cause them to speed up their payments. They need to make sure they have received payment for those clicks from the advertisers (advertisers pay *after* they have received the clicks, and AdSense publishers are not paid for clicks made for Adwords accounts that are not paid.) Then there is the interest issue, which could be pretty significant.
People in the US will start receiving checks within the next several days, and complaining about it won't make them arrive any faster.
I think we really only need a couple of people posting when they *receive* checks, or when the payment is processed in the AdSense account. If you want to know when to expect your check, you can go back to threads in this forum for previous months, and it provides a pretty accurate timeline for when countries receive their checks.
| 4:33 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
My "day job", what I do when I am not on the internet, is consulting. My invoice terms are usually "2 10 net 30", two percent discount if paid withing 10 days, otherwise due in 30 days. (pretty standard).
Only the smallest companies can take advantage of the discount. Most mail the check about 30 days after receiving the invoice. That is what I expect based on experience.
I have only received three checks from Google, all were mailed 30 days from the end of the month. Goofle is as good as any client I have.
Google is not, of course, responsible for the post office.
| 7:01 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Last cheque i recieved was the one sent out on sept 24 and its been two months since thn, i have not recieved any payment from Google.
Okay, I am from india, so it might take approx two weeks for the post to arrive, but even my adsense account doesn't reflect any signes of payment being sent out.
Regarding collecting the tax info, i have already submited that! And its way over $100.
Hope they send it out soon!
| 9:05 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I think the tone of the comment was that:
* contractually, payment should be sent by midnight tonight
* it is the last day of the month
* checks are normally sent out before then
* as it is a weekend will they send today, a Sunday?
I don't think people are arguing about it taking 30 days to finalise a figure and send. I think people are concerned that if they don't SEND TODAY they are in BREACH OF CONTRACT.
Is that clear enough?
| 9:25 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|Why do we have to go through this every month? |
Probably because the minimum payout amount of $100 is a lot of money to some people. Probably because not everyone here has been here for months to know that this topic comes up every month. Probably because a lot of people don't realise that Google's 'within 30 days' actually means 4.59pm on the 30th of the month more times than not (and that doesn't even take into consideration time zones), and probably because knowing others are in the same boat makes people feel ok about it.
I think in this instance pelican was just enquiring as to whether anyone else had been paid in order to see if there was any problem with his/her account. There's probably dozens of readers who are in the same boat and were happy that someone posted the question. Even though I'm fully aware of the terms, each day that there hasn't been any record in the payment sent section of my account, the first place I look to is WW to see if anyone has posted about the issue.
|actually helps the community |
There are many, many questions right across the board that get asked with regular frequency. 'Cheque' threads once a month are certainly no more banal than, for example, the endless "Heck, my CTR just dropped in the last 5 minutes, anyone else seeing the same" kind of threads, or the 1000-message long 'Google dance' threads which actually accomplish very little in my view.
But that's what makes this place such a good community - a whole variety of people across a variety of levels, talking about a whole variety of things - and sometimes things get rehashed in the process.
| 9:54 am on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
same as discussing the weather, yet we do that. so no reason why we shouldnt do this :)
But do you people think it is because of the tax thing that the payments have not been sent? Google should have sent a confirmatory email after tax info was filed that your account is now up to date and tax info has been filed. If for some reason some error occured and the tax info was not filed then the poor webmaster will recieve payment next month. Though I dont think it can happen, it is one of the idiotic possibilities that my mind threw up after not seeing a "Payment Sent" as yet. Especially since G has never been so late before.
And thnx to the guy who posted this Question, someone or the other was bound to bring it up sooner or later.
| 1:30 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Exactly whizkiddo and that's what i wanted to ask too but you beat me to it.
IF ITS ALLOWED AND IT DOES NOT BORE THE OLD TIMERS.
What i wanted to know is Has anybody seen in the Payments sent for Oct earnings as its very late showing up, Septembers appeared as being sent from 27th of the month for most, but some others reported it to be later but still on time.
However since i filled in my Tax info i have been a bit concerned because there was no confirmation that the Tax information was received, and now i am now thinking it may not have been received, since today is the 30th and still nothing new showing in the payments sent, so yes i am a bit concerned and this is the place to ask this repeated monthly question and just to see if this is only affecting a few publishers or everyone?
| 1:46 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
It's a holiday weekend in the US so chances are the Google people are out on holiday like most companies in the US.
| 1:50 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Same thing to me ...
I just jumped in Google Adsense a month and a half ago
and I didn't see the "payment send" in the reports either.
And yes, I filled in the tax info (I'm living in Holland)
on time... and yes, I've earned over $100 ...
It's my first payment and I dont think I have to worry, but I
just want to know if anyone is on the same ship :-))
But there are plenty more without the "payment send" I see ... :-P
| 4:03 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
...but I think what makes the 'Did you get your check?' thread legitimate this time is that there was the whole issue of filing a tax statement with Google this month. The tax thing was a wrench in the works and now we all want to know if things are running smoothly ...so yes, i am curious if you got your check yet ...And I hope that this month is the last thread of its sort.
| 4:19 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Perhaps there should be a sticky at the top of this forum so that the question doesn't appear every single month.
This software can do sticky posts, right?
| 4:34 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
creepychris "And I hope that this month is the last thread of its sort"
Hey this place is big enough for all those that want to know about cheques being sent or arriving and those that do not.
So if you don't want to know or read about it, then don't read and post, go jump in on another more interesting thread, its a big broad community here. nobody is forcing anyone to post here.
I would say to all the new folks here, if you want to ask a question, then feel free don't be put off by those that are not interested, if the Mods let it through, then the rest of us that are interested should feel free to join in right? (off the soap box now)
Lets see what's shows up in the Stats tomorrow, i expect to see something in the payment sent Stats (Dec 1st), if not then i think there are some problems that have yet to be ironed out in with regards to the TAX info collection and we will be informed soon.
But i do not see the problem for those that have a Non U.S. Business (No U.S. Activities ) should be business and payments as normal
[edited by: onfire at 6:47 pm (utc) on Nov. 30, 2003]
| 6:43 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
"It's a holiday weekend in the US so chances are the Google people are out on holiday like most companies in the US."
I don't care if it's the Queen's Birthday, Easter, or any religious festivle! If it says the checks will be sent with 30 days of the start of the month then that is what I expect - regardless of any national holiday!
Just like me saying to my client - it's a national holiday today so instead of sending it on the last working day of the month you'll have to wait and tough "£%^ about it!
Just read an article in Fortune magazine about Google and it showed them to be a highly disorganised bunch of people! Whether that is fair or not is not for me, but what I can say that if a $20billion company can not send checks out on time, who the hell is going to invest in them?
| 7:11 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
So you are trying to tell me that 2 days delay in recieving your cheque will really affect your life? Get real, 30 days or 32 days theres no big difference.
If you don't like it then quit adsense. If you do like adsense then quit moaning.
| 8:25 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
No fewer than the number of people/institutions that would do so otherwise; i.e., it's irrelevant to their IPO which will be the biggest thing to hit Wall Street (if it happens) in years.
|if a $20billion company can not send checks out on time, who the hell is going to invest in them? |
I'm not concerned at all that there is any issue with paying us for our October earnings. Google has always posted the check sent date several days after the date that it posts and the checks have always been postmarked after that date, so that date has no relevance at all.
| 8:33 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I know that there is a value for this topics to exist, but maybe we should make it an unwritten rule not to start one of these until the first of the month..... really unless you get the check on the 28th and want to share. what good can be had for this thread to exist until after the 1st of the month?
| 8:53 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Hi All :-)
I posted this question originally just to check if others had not seen anything in their "payment history" too....I wanted to make sure it wasn't just me....I don't see anything wrong with posting this and if you're not interested, I'd suggest just skipping the thread.
I also agree with someone above who posted that probably we'll see something tomorrow....hopefully.
| 9:14 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|"So you are trying to tell me that 2 days delay in recieving your cheque will really affect your life? Get real, 30 days or 32 days theres no big difference. "|
so why make rules? why have a contract? why have a faq? if the principles are "flexible?"
personaly I make many £1000's from other affiliate programmes so the adsense cash is not a great concern - I just believe that when you make promises you stick to them! If you can't - you communicate why!
personally I don't believe you read my comment. I believe you are assuming I am being anal or concerned about payment - nope. I concerned about the lack of cummunication!
"No fewer than the number of people/institutions that would do so otherwise; i.e., it's irrelevant to their IPO which will be the biggest thing to hit Wall Street (if it happens) in years"
have you read the Fortune article? there have been concerns over the organisation and structure of the accounts department in particular and the organisation in general - perhaps you should read the article before you reply? Here it is: http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,548765,00.html and this may be intersesting http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,548769,00.html
often we only see half the story - from a user's point of view - be that the google search or adsense - we often don't have the ability to see within a company as individuals but we do have the ability to leverage information from other sources to make an informed decision.
Yes we see the swan gliding along, but we don't see the legs beneath it!
I think Google has great customer support - I just think there are some customer facing aspects to the business in which they can improve!
I suppose one's not allowed to be criticle of Google?
| 10:45 pm on Nov 30, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Look mate, if you are going to attempt to construct an adequate argument then you should at least learn to spell and use punctuation correctly.
"so why make rules? why have a contract? why have a faq? if the principles are "flexible?" "
I'm sure google have a disclaimer in their terms of service if you wish to look hard enough for any changes and/or modifications to their terms. I would also be willing to place a small sum on the fact they have provided exceptions for public holidays in their terms of service.
I'd suggest you read every single word, then come back and tell me if I'm wrong. If I'm wrong fair enough, I don't care enough to check through their terms, its no big deal. If I'm right then I suggest you begin to start putting curry on your hat because you're going to be eating it.
| 12:47 am on Dec 1, 2003 (gmt 0)|
There are no exceptions for public holidays or anything else in the Terms of Service, Program Policies or FAQ.
It clearly states that GOogle will mail a check within 30 days of the end of any calendar month in which your earnings exceed $100.
I'm sure the checks were mailed, it's just the payment history that hasn't been updated yet.
| 12:58 am on Dec 1, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Well, I wouldn't be so sure the checks were all mailed so this thread is justified.
I gave Google my tax information the first time they asked for it. So I was quite surprised at getting an email from them a couple days ago saying I have to give them my tax information or I won't get my check.
I take all this to say they're waiting for tax information by November 30 and if they don't have it by then, they'll not send my check. Since they asked me for my tax info again after I already gave it to them, I'm concerned as to whether or not I'm going to be getting October's check in a few days, or if I'll not see it until after the first of the year, while they search for my tax information that keeps getting lost in their system. I gave the info again, but will it get lost again?
I haven't seen record of being paid for October in the Payment History report and I'm getting worried. But since no one else apparently has seen it either, I'll sleep a little better tonight.
| 1:48 am on Dec 1, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Let me see...all adsense checks sent out on time prior to this....short month especially with thanksgiving happening at the end of the month...seem to have finances to pay....figuring out tax information, ,that they gave us 6 weeks notice on....think I won't be worrying if check is in the mail;)
For those that disagree feel free to write google that email chastizing them for neing a couple of days over due. Take them to small claims court to get the interest owed you....claim contract default....do what ever please you.
Me I think I'll just wait to the Christmas mail rush is over and then open the cheque.