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hi! i made my first money on adsense
mangonet




msg:1448312
 7:06 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

only 0.33$ for 2 clicks but its o.k
i try to do SEO to the word
"Student Loan Consolidation"

tips maybe?

 

Frequent




msg:1448313
 7:08 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Pick an easier niche to target.

;)

Freq---

FrostyMug




msg:1448314
 7:13 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

as answered by a member here to your earlier post, you need a PR6 to break top 10 for this keyword (tough one!)

how many page views are you getting right now, per day?

mangonet




msg:1448315
 7:19 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

now 250

webdreamer




msg:1448316
 8:08 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Loans is a tough one. Try putting a keyword with loan spelled wrong; student laons, or studdent loans. Sometimes you can get some extra click throughs if you rank high with incorrect spelling of targeted keywords.

Gewd luk!

jchampliaud




msg:1448317
 8:13 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Try putting a keyword with loan spelled wrong; student laons, or studdent loans.

Might that have an effect on the ads served?

Frequent




msg:1448318
 8:19 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

He can avoid problems with misspellings using the targetting tags.

Although, again, his chosen niche is 99% worked over every which way but Sunday.

Freq---

Essex_boy




msg:1448319
 8:29 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

targetting tags? What are they?

mangonet




msg:1448320
 8:30 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

o.k good idea
any more tips?
thanks in advance
(7 clicks 1.9$)

Frequent




msg:1448321
 8:33 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Adsense now allows you to block off sections of content to be either emphasized or de-emphasized.

https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/answer.py?answer=23168&sourceid=aso&subid=en_asblog&medium=link

Freq---

fearlessrick




msg:1448322
 10:05 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

People like this SEO kid, posting his results just makes me madder about how easy it is to game Google. Here I am seven years into my site with hundreds of relevant pages and this kid has made more today than I have.

There is no justice in doing the right thing. Google is in no way rewarding content providers as it should. Instead it rewards spammers, MFAs, scammers, domainers and quick buck artists to a much greater degree. Every dollar that is sucked up by leeches just in this for the money, is another dollar out of a real publisher's hand.

It stinks and it is time for honest publishers to complain loudly.

btas2




msg:1448323
 10:21 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Or start their own MFA sites....

LeChuck




msg:1448324
 10:22 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Google isn't in the business of rewarding publishers, they're click brokers.

With that said, I don't like mfa's either.

ken_b




msg:1448325
 10:30 pm on Jan 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

mangonet

There's plenty of information here at WW to help you make this work. It's unlikely that anyone is going to put it all together in one public thread though. Dig through the old threads, read a lot, find the pieces, you'll learn a lot more that way.

Aside from that, you've chosen a pretty competitive sector. Getting traffic is going to be tough if you are relying on the free serps.

That means get ready to do some heavy duty PPC spending to get traffic or maybe buying links on other sites that would send you traffic. I suppose you might be able to get some free link exchanges going, but I doubt that's likely to be easy on a topic like this, at least if you expect traffic to come from the links.

When it comes to PPC (like Adwords) you aren't going to make it if you spend too much money and end up getting 16 cent clicks. That doesn't mean it's impossible to do this with PPC, but it would take very careful management of your PPC spending and a very good understanding of how to make it work for you.

Frankly, I think you've chosen the hard way to make Adsense work for you, especially if you're new at this. I might point out that we get a certain number of posts in this forum from webmasters who have apparently gone too far and crossed the line of the Adsense TOS and gotten kicked out of Adsense for their efforts.

As others have indicated, it might be better, or at least easier, to start with something less competitive.

[edited by: martinibuster at 9:59 pm (utc) on Jan. 8, 2006]
[edit reason] spelling [/edit]

btas2




msg:1448326
 5:32 pm on Jan 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I was serious about building your own "MFA" site. If Adsense isn't going to stop them and they make money, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

I'm going to try it myself. It won't be a totally useless site (I can't bring myself to do that), but it will be a site based only on subject matter designed to make money, even though I have little or no interest in it and most of the content will be stuff you can get from other sources too (no, I'm not going to steal content!).

I'm not going to violate any of the AdSense rules either. I don't think you have to.

If I can build a better MFA site than most of the other MFA sites (and that should not be difficult), maybe I'll make a few bucks. It shouldn't take more than a few days to throw an SEO optimized site together and have maybe 50+ pages of content. It won't even be a link farm!

remove




msg:1448327
 10:30 pm on Jan 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

bit off topic, but erm- anyone wanna tell me what MFA stands for? i'm sorta new to google adsense and i'm guessing it doesn't mean "master of fine arts," "ministry of foriegn affairs," or "multifigber arrangement."

Wonder World




msg:1448328
 10:41 pm on Jan 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

MFA = Made for Adsense
sites with no value for the user, other than the ads

remove




msg:1448329
 11:21 pm on Jan 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

ahhh, thanks wonder world- i understand now. that's bound to be a useful abbreviation to know around here :)

arikgub




msg:1448330
 2:22 pm on Jan 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

btas2,

Can you teach me how to make SEO optimized site with 50+ content pages in few days? Even if you outsource content writing it takes longer .....

anand84




msg:1448331
 2:32 pm on Jan 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just because some Webmasters here have really good sites and traffic doesnt make people who make MFA sites worthless. Everybody is onto website making for his or her own interests and necessities. Some have it as a profession. They make really amazing sites. Some here are out to try what this field is about. Everyone cant make a Yahoo here. Okay, MFA is against the ToS. But making sites to get the clicks 'as well' is certainly not prohibited.

Back to the topic:
Mangonet, I guess you have not optimised your keyword well enough. I had been trying out a few keywords sometime back, and the same keyword fetched me more than a dollar for the only click I got.

caran1




msg:1448332
 2:54 pm on Jan 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

usually MFA websites are for a few 'high paying ' subjects, for which it is difficult to rank and get free SE traffic. If you make a really useful website for visitors , there are plenty of high value clicks, with little competition

mangonet




msg:1448333
 3:06 pm on Jan 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

anand84,how you do SEO for your site?

NoLimits




msg:1448334
 3:24 pm on Jan 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

For those of you considering creating your own MFA based on this guys earnings.... please look at them again. They are NOT substantial. I make more EPC in a very uncompetitive niche. Use your heads folks, don't jump into a highly competitive niche where it will be hard to get traffic - just for the "chance" that you may get some high paying clicks.

The fact of the matter is, inventory on high paying words gets bought up quickly - and the odds are, you are going to end up making the same amount per click (give or take a few cents) as any other site you run, but you won't have any traffic.

Not a good business plan IMO.

btas2




msg:1448335
 5:59 pm on Jan 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Can you teach me how to make SEO optimized site with 50+ content pages in few days? Even if you outsource content writing it takes longer .....

Of course I can. You just have to send for my "Make Money From Adsense" package that will only cost you $49.99 and is available from my new website.

sonny




msg:1448336
 6:20 pm on Jan 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Try ""consolidate graduate student loan".
Geez! I guarantee just about every new site made since adsense started is an MFA in one way or the other. Just admit it, get off the high horses and quit thinking your site is "just so much more" than the peon sites everyone else is making.

anand84




msg:1448337
 9:11 am on Jan 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Mangonet. I told you that I 'used' to have a site for the same keyword. But as others have said it, I couldnt make really good traffic. I did not try SE, anyway..

However, the website I have now is extremely uncompetitive and my site is in the front page og Google in less than two weeks. Though, I'm not making too many cents because it is a forum and monetizing forums is a bit difficult.

Event_King




msg:1448338
 2:15 pm on Jan 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>>>I was serious about building your own "MFA" site. If Adsense isn't going to stop them and they make money, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em<<<<<

So that's the global attitude and reason why the web search industry is in the state it's in? I'd love to see Google fall - and it can happen to anyone....

bumpaw




msg:1448339
 8:24 pm on Jan 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

MFA = Made for Adsense
sites with no value for the user, other than the ads

I think there are degrees in quality with MFA sites as in everything else.

I'm going to try it myself. It won't be a totally useless site (I can't bring myself to do that)

I'm with btas2 here. Mine is almost ready for launch. Original quality articles with only one purpose and that's revenue from Adsense. It's not designed to make big bucks but to generate a fair revenue stream for the effort involved. If I'm not proud of it in the end I'll terminate it.

Maybe there can be such a thing as QMFA.:)

arubicus




msg:1448340
 8:58 pm on Jan 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Maybe there can be such a thing as QMFA"

QMFA? More like a quality site made to generate revenue. Regardless if it is adsense/yahoo/products/affiliates...

Isn't that usually what a business sets out to achieve.

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