btas2

msg:1340613 | 6:02 pm on Dec 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I'm sure your URL will be removed fast since you're not allowed to post URLs here. Reading the rules is slways a good idea, whether you're dealing with AdSense or Webmaster World. Your site contains a bunch of dead links plus what I'd regard as excessive "in your face" advertising with a large (not Adsense) ad right in the center of the page above the fold and not much other content visisble. While AsSense banned you for invalid clicks, dead links and lots of ads stuffed in your face isn't going to get you much "benefit of the doubt" from AdSense - read their webmaster guidelines. All you can do is write to them and plead your case. It's been know to work, but not very often.
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hunderdown

msg:1340614 | 6:36 pm on Dec 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
"Invalid clicks" doesn't just mean clicks you did or clicks made by visitors who you urged to click the ads. Google uses that term more broadly. From what the person who visited your site says, your site and page design approach may be generating clicks that Google would consider to be invalid. Reread the AdSense agreement carefully and be sure you weren't crossing any lines. Then if you are SURE you were not, say so in a polite but firm email. That's all you can do.
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Hobbs

msg:1340615 | 7:02 pm on Dec 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
jansher, I know Alexa is inaccurate, but its an independent indicator, according to them there is no way you could be making the "50,000-65,000" daily ad impressions that you say you make, not even the "3000-3500 uniques" too, your niche, design and content is not that unique, there are lots of sites for downloading ringtones and themes for mobiles, nothing to reflect on you personally. With the 0.6 CTR and 18,000 daily impressions you should be having around 110 clicks daily not 150-200 as you say, this means that you are getting double the clicks you should normally have. Maybe some or all of this has something to do with why your account was closed?
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ogletree

msg:1340616 | 7:30 pm on Dec 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
It is very possible your competiters realeased some click bots on your site to get you banned.
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stardoc

msg:1340617 | 7:32 pm on Dec 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Hi, If it is the same site that is in your email address, then I have noticed a few minor problems. These might be the reasons but I am not so sure. 1. You have labelled google ad block as "related sites" which is not allowed in TOS. 2. You are attracting undue attention towards referral buttons by prompting people to download firefox and earn money through google adsense (assuming the same TOS applies to referral buttons as well). I ll advice you to read the TOS in detail and try to figure out what went wrong and learn from your mistakes.
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perfectlover

msg:1340618 | 7:33 pm on Dec 30, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Have you checked your logs and see any suspecious activity? If you do see such thing then ask them to look at it.
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jansher

msg:1340619 | 9:19 am on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I have added those quotes on adsense and firfox just as a disscription bacause many ppl were unable to understand what it was all about and also the fact that there are other sites which have same sort of quotes etc. I havent got any reply from google yet. If they say that it is because of all these quotes then i will notify then of thousands of websites who also uses such quotes in their websites as a discription.
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jansher

msg:1340620 | 9:24 am on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| Have you checked your logs and see any suspecious activity? If you do see such thing then ask them to look at it. |
| I used to check my logs every 2 hrs but unfortunately on that perticular day i didnt checked the whole day and when i tried at night i found that my account was terminated.
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Jean

msg:1340621 | 10:01 am on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| If they say that it is because of all these quotes then i will notify then of thousands of websites who also uses such quotes in their websites as a discription. |
| So what? Does it give you the right to do it as well? If it's a consolation, these thousands of others might be the next ones in line for the chop.
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humblebeginnings

msg:1340622 | 11:20 am on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Jansher, Noel is absolutely right. On your index page there are at least 3 Adsense TOS violations. More than enough reason for G to ban you. Added to the page with (links to) mobile video's (copy rights!) and all these dead links on your site, I would say the ban is pretty much explained. You are right about so many other sites violating the Adsense TOS the same way as you (or even much more seriuous than you do) but two wrongs don't make one right. Anyways, the best thing for you to do would be to make a thousand apologies to G and to remove all the TOS violations. Ask if they can re-activate your account. But beware, G is not known to forgive and forget about TOS violations that are so obvious as yours. Perhaps you should try to sign up again (with a new website), using the name of a family member who lives on an other adress. In the meanwhile try to monetize your existing site with CJ, Fastclick, Chitika, etcetera. Best of luck, H.
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Jolly_Roger

msg:1340623 | 11:56 am on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Jansher, In addition to the TOS violations listed by humblebeginnings and others, above, you also have adsense ads (still) on noncontent pages (your stats pages). Remember, Google considers any click coming from a page in violation of their TOS an invalid click.
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jansher

msg:1340624 | 12:19 pm on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
i have google for other sites. can i use that?
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abbeyvet

msg:1340625 | 12:44 pm on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| Perhaps you should try to sign up again (with a new website), using the name of a family member who lives on an other adress |
| Likely to be a temporary solution even if you initially succeed. The next chapter in the story will be an email cancelling your account for being related to an account which was previously cancelled. | i have google for other sites. can i use that? |
| It is accounts that are cancelled, not sites banned, at least that is the usual position. So all of the sites associated with the banned account are affected. Unless you already have more than one AdSense account. I think, since it is plain that you are in contravention of the TOS on numerous counts, that your only hope is to pause for some time, take a very careful look at ALL your sites, make whatever changes are needed to assure yourself that they are in absolute compliance with the TOS and then a really careful and contrite email to Google asking if they would consider allowing you back. It is not likely that they will, but really trying to find tricky ways to get around the problem by further violating terms or by skating at the edges of what is allowable will only be a short term solution at best. Alternatively, work to get your sites clean and wait for Yahoo Ads to become available to you, then stay absolutely clean, clean as a whistle, because if you want anything long term it is the only way to go. Good luck.
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peewhy

msg:1340626 | 1:56 pm on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
All in all Google is in the business of generating revenue, as we are. Whilst it is happy paying commissions for bringing in deals, it is constantly looking for areas where it is paying out undue monies. I would think it sees thousands of site that achieve questionable clicks, some are there for no other reason than stealing from Google but the vast majority are through misunderstanding and non-conforming. We have a duty to comply with Google's terms and we are rewarded for doing so. Google gives and Google takes away!
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jansher

msg:1340627 | 4:27 pm on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I already have a google account for my other site. can i use that? iam already using it for my other sites so can i add the codes from that account to the infected site aswell. secondly is there any software availible with which i can monitor my google adsense account. I mean the clicks and from where they are coming etc. is there still something left for me......
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stardoc

msg:1340628 | 4:57 pm on Dec 31, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| I already have a google account for my other site. can i use that? |
| -from your last post | how can i prove to google that i am innocent and its clear from my site's stats. Possilbly some1 has messed with my account |
| -from your first post in this thread. I am assuming that the other account is also in your name or a pseudoname. If it is so, then it is also against the TOS (in addition to three other violations I mentioned on first page of this thread). If you want some sincere and useful help, then try to print the adsense terms and policies and spend some time in reading that. You will notice that many of the recent incidents and questions will suddenly start making sense after that. I would advice you to look for an alternative form of revenue generation for the banned site till YPN is available for you. Meanwhile, work on this site to make it clean, more useful and if possible "indispensible" for any advertiser..
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