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Play_Bach

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Msg#: 10942 posted 6:21 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I just noticed a nice spike in earnings today and so I went looking for an explanation. My highest-earning site just moved up from PR6 to PR2 on Google for a popular keywords search (4.4 million returns). Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll stay there for a few days (or move higher!).

 

abbeyvet

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Msg#: 10942 posted 6:37 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

That's good. But I think you are a bit confused about what page rank means - PR is not which page in the results your page appears on. It is a value or rank given to a page by Google, which is largely determined by the number and nature of inbound links to your site.

Thus while being on page one (or two) is great, having a PR6 would be much better than having a PR2.

Play_Bach

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Msg#: 10942 posted 6:55 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

> But I think you are a bit confused about what page rank means

I have always assumed it had to do with how high your site placed on page one for a given search, so in this case, my site moved up from being six down from the top to number two. That isn't PR2? If not, what would you call it?

Thanks.

wyweb



 
Msg#: 10942 posted 7:06 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

that would be your DFT ranking..

You went from a 6DFT to a 2DFT

Good job!

wheelie34

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Msg#: 10942 posted 7:11 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

depending on what you think PR is, either you are saying Page 2 or result 2

either way if you moved 4 places (*in the SERPS)thats good news

had you moved 4 places that way in PR (pagerank) then you would be most upset

* = Search Results Pages

Play_Bach

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Msg#: 10942 posted 7:12 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

> that would be your DFT ranking..

Well alrighty then, I stand corrected. Thanks.
Guess the title of this thread should be changed to "DFT Rank = $" ...
Thanks again. :-)

wheelie34

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Msg#: 10942 posted 7:14 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

wyweb, DFT? enlighten me please

Play_Bach

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Msg#: 10942 posted 7:24 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

OK, guess I'm still confused, sorry.

When I look in the Google Directory (in the category my site shows in) it places number 15 under the heading "Viewing in Google PageRank order."

Since this is not PR15, how do I determine what the PR number is?

Thanks.

sailorjwd

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Msg#: 10942 posted 7:28 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

To determine the PR of your site you can download the Google Toolbar. It show the PR of each page you are viewing... so goto your website pages and see what it says. The toolbar PR is often out of date compared to realtime PR but it will give you a clue.

ps. Darwin was a hack.

jatar_k

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Msg#: 10942 posted 7:31 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

you can get a description of pagerank here
[google.com...]

nubbin

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Msg#: 10942 posted 7:31 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

You can see the page rank for a page if you install the Google tool bar in your browser. The page rank for the page you are browsing is shown on the tool bar as a shaded line. Hover your mouse over the line and it will tell you the Page Rank ("Page Rank is Google's measure of Importance of this page 4/10").

The formula that determines Page Rank is Google's secret, as is its impact on rankings in Google search results. Many webmasters believe it is driven by number and quality of inbound links amongst other things, and that a higher rank helps your page get higher in the search results. There is plenty of discussion about this in the main Webmasterworld Google forum.

wyweb



 
Msg#: 10942 posted 8:08 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

wyweb, DFT? enlighten me please

Down From Top ranking... sorry, poor attempt at humor.

wheelie34

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Msg#: 10942 posted 9:05 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

missed that one thought it was something like

Down the F in Tube (had a feeling it was humour though)

annej

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Msg#: 10942 posted 10:29 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Back to the original question though. Is there any relation between earnings and placement in the serps>

I know if you are higher in the search pages more people will visit and therefore you would probably earn more money.

What I am wondering if there is a relation between smart pricing and being in the top few in search engine results.

Alioc

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Msg#: 10942 posted 5:19 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Annej, it's actually a good question.

An example:
Being on top for a term like "free widgets" would decrease the eCPM because of the low quality traffic that term brings. With "quality" I mean "willingness to purchase". Basically, the more free stuff hunters your site gets, the lower eCPM you get.

That's only a basic example. I think there's a relationship between our earnings and every single stat of our sites out there.

annej

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Msg#: 10942 posted 3:24 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think there's a relationship between our earnings and every single stat of our sites out there.

Could you expand on this? I know it's probably not a simple matter of just PR. Could a lot of good content and links from content sites help?

I always wonder though, if content sites convert well. Or do the spammy sites convert better as people are looking for a specific thing?

davidof

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Msg#: 10942 posted 5:55 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

> The formula that determines Page Rank is Google's secret,

The formula that determines PageRank isn't secret. How Google derives SERPS and what component PageRank plays in them is.

nubbin

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 10942 posted 8:16 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

So what's the formula Davidof?

novice

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Msg#: 10942 posted 8:31 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

When I look in the Google Directory (in the category my site shows in) it places number 15 under the heading "Viewing in Google PageRank order."

Since this is not PR15, how do I determine what the PR number is?

You can also guess/estimate your PR by the green bar along side your Google directory listing. Use a scale of 1 being the smallest green bar and 10 being the largest green bar.

novice

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 10942 posted 8:45 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

So what's the formula Davidof?

Here is Google's secret formula.

[google.com...]

jdancing

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Msg#: 10942 posted 9:46 pm on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Someone needs to post this thread at Bash... ;-)

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