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"Advertise on this website" privacy / default opt-in
frankray




msg:1462529
 7:17 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I read the other threads complaining about "Advertise on this website" which started appearing on our network of sites.

Am I the only one who objects to the default opt-in? I do not like the fact Google just decided to roll this out without notifying me. Perhaps they sent an email but I did not receive.

They should have given me a choice to turn it on.

I especially annoyed that they rolled this out with my company information. When you click "Advertise on this website" for any of my websites, it gives up my company name.

Maybe no big deal for others, but I like my privacy and have never given Google the name of the company they send check to.

Very bad for Google. Not sure I want to wait around to see what else they will do.

Sorry I know that everybody still loves Google Adwords, but this is annoying.

 

frankray




msg:1462530
 8:29 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

> have never given Google the name of the company they send check to

A little tired when I wrote this...

I meant to say that we never gave Google permission to share the name of our company when someone clicks "Advertise on this site".

Now that I have opted out. It seems that the "Advertise on this site" will not go away.

Instead they just redirect you to the default "adwords" page.

This is getting to be just a bit much on the ads now.

21_blue




msg:1462531
 8:54 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

You may have a point, though I have a related but slightly different concern: an advertiser has more information about my site than I do. Using a dedicated campaign in adwords they can get detailed stats on the CPM impressions and rates at my site. I can't!

netscan




msg:1462532
 11:25 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Regardless, if gooooogle wants to advertise their services on my site, and gain referrals, they can pay me for it just like any other advertiser.

That's basically what their doing, getting millions of free advertising spots from their publishers and making a killing doing it.

If I wanted to advertise adwords, I'd put up a referral button, otherwise hands off Google, please.

JoeS




msg:1462533
 5:07 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I opted out of this but it is still showing on my sites a day later. Can't get them to stop.

elsewhen




msg:1462534
 5:25 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

it took awhile for the text to disappear from my ads - almost 24 hours. you have to be patient.

hyperkik




msg:1462535
 5:25 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have no objection to their asking publishers to opt out. It would be foolish for them to make this opt-in, as most publishers don't follow AdSense developments that closely. (We're the exception, not the rule.)

So far, my impressions of the program is that it depresses eCPM. Of course, Google doesn't provide sufficient information to be certain as to the effect - they should.

1Lit




msg:1462536
 6:34 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Regardless, if gooooogle wants to advertise their services on my site, and gain referrals, they can pay me for it just like any other advertiser.
That's basically what their doing, getting millions of free advertising spots from their publishers and making a killing doing it."

Do we get paid any referral commission when people open up an Adwords account via these links? If not, I'm opting out of it straight away.

Do no evil my foot.

miedmark




msg:1462537
 10:12 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

One question - if a user clicks the "advertise on this page" link - does this count same way as if this was a referral? Or are we sending new customers to google for free?

Johan007




msg:1462538
 10:48 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

The link is out of order, we should at least get referrer credit.

Clark




msg:1462539
 12:03 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

mied,
For free.

WallyWorld




msg:1462540
 12:29 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wow, that sucks. Here is what Google says about being paid for those signing up with AdWords through the link they put on your website:
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Do I get paid a referral fee for every advertiser I sign up?
No; Onsite Advertiser Sign-up is separate from the AdSense referrals feature. However, you should see a revenue benefit from new advertisers signing up to display ads on your site, as greater competition for your ad space will lead to higher potential earnings for you.
-------------
I wonder if they will let me place a little blurb on all of their search results pages without me paying them since they seem to think it isn't necessary to pay me?!

Clark




msg:1462541
 12:51 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

"should". In other words: "should see a revenue benefit, but in fact will experience a revenue loss from new advertisers" because by displaying CPM ads on your site we can monetize the more expensive ads on other websites.

hyperkik




msg:1462542
 1:59 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Should" isn't exactly reassuring. Google should adjust its algorithms until it is comfortable saying "will".

frankray




msg:1462543
 5:37 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Removed this nonsense and back to some nice revenues for today.

I had dropped big time with daily revenue numbers during the last few days and this "advertise on this website" is just too much for me to allow on my site.

Totally ruins blending and other features I am after. And too distracting for my users and I am not getting paid.

Guess what. Bye-bye "Advertise on this website".

Even though the link is gone now, you can still hack the link, by copying the URL into the browser. Will show the payee name for our account. I guess I anyone can find out the name of who is behind most websites that use adsense. Shame on Google! Big time privacy violation in my book. But I am crazy like that.

In my view, people are going to be disappointed when they click on their own "Advertise on this website" link and are surprised with the disclosure.

Anyway takes a while for the link to actually disappear.

I should really post this stuff on my site. :) Oh well.

Clark




msg:1462544
 6:36 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Don't forget to opt out of CPM ads. That is something you need to do by email. There is no option to do it from your control panel. Read other threads about that.

incrediBILL




msg:1462545
 6:45 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

BUNK ALERY! BUNK ALERT!

However, you should see a revenue benefit from new advertisers signing up to display ads on your site, as greater competition for your ad space will lead to higher potential earnings for you.

<DEBUNKING>

I'll repeat this once more, the original premise of AdSense which is why I signed on was that Google claimed to test the AdWords ads on Google Search first and then only released the best performing ads into the content network. When they released site targetting my income took a direct hit as high bidding crap that I couldn't opt out of without dropping into the competitive filter hammered my site for quite a few days. They may have BID to get the spot but who gives a crap when the ads don't convert!

</DEBUNKING>

yump




msg:1462546
 10:29 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think its evil that the default is opt-in.

Oh yes, the TOS probably say Google can do what they want when they want, but to put up an 'Advertise here' message on our websites, without our specific approval stinks. No doubt Google would say its their space, but they'd be pretty quick to ban us if we put up some 'undesirable' content on our space, next to their ads.

Fortunately discovered it before implementation I think (UK).

JuniorOptimizer




msg:1462547
 10:50 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

YPN doesn't do this.

oddsod




msg:1462548
 11:36 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think its evil that the default is opt-in.

I don't know about "evil" but there is a distinct stink with a lot of what Google does nowadays. It pays to be cautious with them - they're no more the darlings they were a few years ago. Treat them like you would any other company out there ... then you won't have the wrong expectations. They're just as likely to screw you as Microsoft or some other big company is.

caine




msg:1462549
 12:47 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

bad news - had to kill it. can see it being somewhat advantagous if your one domain is the same as the account, and you got some good serp dominance. but if you have multiple domains on the same account, with different industries and angles - then what a waste of space.

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