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How long does it takes for "Advertise on this site" to be off
after you opt out
security56




msg:1359814
 5:27 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey was just wondering how long does it takes for them to take "Advertise on this site" after you opout Its being six hours still there on my site :(

 

Gandhalf




msg:1359815
 6:45 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I don't know but I would be interested in knowing the reasons why you would opt of. Does it affect your earnings?

security56




msg:1359816
 10:19 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well I dont know if its because of it but my Page CTR is down almost 30 percent, same ads same number of visits and its always being consistant. And this is the only change that has happen. I just wanna turn it off to see if thats th reason why its down.

DoingItWell




msg:1359817
 12:35 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I find it hard to believe that getting more ads to compete for the same ad space should cause a lowering of earnings. My advice would be to consider other reasons for the earning decline. Well-paying campaigns stopping? One or more advertizers for your keywords going to YPN or other? It's hard to make such calls when you can't do it in an "all else equal" environment.

security56




msg:1359818
 2:25 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well I am getting better ads, and also the same old ones. I just want to see if thats the reason why the click rate has gone down so much if it isn't then I opt in again, but 12 hours later still on I guess it takes a while.

lcampers




msg:1359819
 5:09 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

does Google have a way for you to see traffic to that link?

or is it just for them?

i just noticed mine yesterday.

kempozone




msg:1359820
 5:13 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

It takes a few hours for the message to be taken off. The reasons I took it off was:

1. it clutters the space
2. not customized for different sites

kz

hyperkik




msg:1359821
 5:43 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I find it hard to believe that getting more ads to compete for the same ad space should cause a lowering of earnings.

You shouldn't. Google tries to guess how much a page will earn from CPC ads and balance that against how much it will earn from CPM ads, which makes it something of a crapshoot whether a visitor will see a highly targeted CPC ad or a less targeted (or possibly irrelevant) CPM ad. That random element alone will cause variation in earnings, although ideally it would balance out over the longer term.

The picture is further clouded by the fact that Google also tries to guess how much a CPM ad is worth as compared to a CPC ad. This appears to be based upon the relative performance of each ad, not the historic performance of the page or website. So if the choice is to display a CPC ad which has an eCPM of $5 or a CPM ad which will generate $5.01 over 1,000 impressions, the CPM ad is displayed - even on a page of your site where the same CPC ad would generate an eCPM of $20. This is supposed to balance out because the CPM ads also show on your lower performing pages, but it doesn't always work out in the publisher's favor. (In my experience, although Google doesn't provide the statistical information necessary to be sure, it seems to cut eCPM significantly more often than it increases eCPM.)

The mingling of CPM and CPC results also confounds the effort to track performance by channel. Statistics for CPM ads should be tracked separately from statistics for CPC ads. (I think Google doesn't track separately because, even on some sites where CPM ads do raise overall earnings, many publishers would gasp at how little many CPM advertisers are paying and want to opt out.)

JoeS




msg:1359822
 5:54 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I opted out yesterday and this is still on my site. Revenue is down about 20-25% and Monday-Tuesday are usually my busiest days.

I hope this comes off soon. It is very annoying.

hunderdown




msg:1359823
 6:06 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

You all may already know this, but opting out from the "Advertise on this site" link won't stop advertisers from site targeting. It just makes it a little less easy for them to find your site. Google provides other tools for them to find your site, however.

Perfection




msg:1359824
 6:31 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I opted out yesterday and this is still on my site. Revenue is down about 20-25% and Monday-Tuesday are usually my busiest days.

I hope this comes off soon. It is very annoying.

My thoughts exactly.

Since yesterday I have noticed a huge drop in every stat except impressions.

Since yesterday "Advertise on this site" has been showing up on my site for the first time.

This is not coincidence.

I opted out about 6-7 hours ago and it's still there. It's like I'm being forced to lose money. It's a terrible feeling.

Jay27




msg:1359825
 7:10 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

It had affected us too, and after removing everything returned back to normal.

Also I have no reason to tell to my advertiser: "as I'm so dumb that can not take your money and run your ads, go to G. and give your money to them. I hope they'll give me some part of it!"

hunderdown




msg:1359826
 7:17 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm not sure I understand how switching it off would have an immediate effect. If an advertiser had chosen your site for site targeting after seeing "Advertise on this site," wouldn't their ads just keep running? If there was an effect I'm thinking it must be a coincidence.

Perfection




msg:1359827
 7:28 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

hunderdown, for me it has nothing to do with the advertisers advertising on my site. For me it's just the little "Advertise on this site" message itself. That alone is what is causing my revenue to decrease. Nothing else.

As soon as it goes away, I expect everything to return to normal.


TampaLou




msg:1359828
 7:58 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I likewise chose to drop the "Advertise on this site" marking because of the distraction it provided. It's just something else people could click (perhaps out of curiosity?) that would not be an advertisement or content within my site.

My preference would've been for it to be an option for us to opt-in on, versus it being put in for everyone and it having to be manually removed.

hunderdown




msg:1359829
 8:05 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

OK. I understand. So far I'm not seeing the same impact you are. Perhaps my vistors are less easily distracted.

miedmark




msg:1359830
 10:07 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I might be the first one to say something good about the "advertise on this site". It started showing today and earnings have not been affected by it (same). I can't see how this would hurt your income. If anything it gives advertisers better and easier chance to put their ads on YOUR site. I think I'll leave the link as is (unless it really hurts the income).

hyperkik




msg:1359831
 10:16 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you can't see how it can hurt your income, read the other threads on the subject.

Key_Master




msg:1359832
 10:52 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

To each his own I guess.

I run adsense on a couple of sites which generate close to a million ad impressions per month. Ever since the "Advertise on this site" change, I have seen a slight increase in both CPM and CTR. Interestingly enough, I had one company contact me this morning to let me now they were were using the service and were also interested in additional non-adsense related advertising. The ads they are using certainly are showing up more frequently than others but the bottom line hasn't changed much.

I think that it is important to understand, companies like Google need to open new lines of revenue to remain competitive. More choices for both publishers and advertisers is a good thing for us and for Google. You have the option to opt out. It may hurt your bottom line for a day or two (and I'm not disputing that it does- every site is different) but what you see as negative may help you in ways you can't immediately see.

WallyWorld




msg:1359833
 12:47 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

There is no guarantee that anyone clicking on the link will advertise on your site. They can just as easily advertise on any other AdSense site or none at all. Either way, it takes the visitor away from your site without any monitary gain. It also makes the ads seem somewhat cheaper with that offer and I think distracts possible other clicks. My stats (and others stats) seem to bear that out.

trader




msg:1359834
 4:39 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

The links still appear even though I opted-out by unchecking the box so I assume the program must not run in real-time for some odd reason.

It seems so much of the G policies are shrouded in mystery and G wants to keep things secret.

ArtistMike




msg:1359835
 9:35 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

The links still appear even though I opted-out by unchecking the box so I assume the program must not run in real-time for some odd reason.

It seems so much of the G policies are shrouded in mystery and G wants to keep things secret.
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Just a little hint that might speed things up... if there is a way to delete the logo for your site that you put on the landing page, delete the logo and this might speed up them dropping you from the service.

I noticed that when I opted in to the service the link on the ads would not show up until I uploaded the logo for the landing page.

estaquieto




msg:1359836
 10:00 am on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Took me about 4-5 days before it took effect. Worked wonders on my ctr.

trader




msg:1359837
 3:39 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Why would this not be running in real-time?

blue_eagle




msg:1359838
 3:54 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Another negative effect from my experience and it is not very hard to guess I think why it effected my ctr.

Until today, i didnt even know on site advertiser sign up link has been appearing below my ad units. And I have seen a significant decrease for the last couple days. When I visited my web site today I saw the annoying advertise on this site link below my 728 x 90 ad units.

First of all it looks amateur, even though it didnt effect my earnings I was going to remove it anyways. As you know on the left bottom side of the 728 x 90 ad unit there is a link says "Ads by Google" and Now, on the right bottom of the ad unit there is "Advertise on this site link" If I were a visitor I wouldnt click on that ugly ad unit. My ad units just look like a chair! with 2 links below the whole ad unit and those links look like chair's legs.

I turned it off and lets see what happens. Even though it may not have an effect on my CTR (which I believe it has an affect) I dont want to show my visitors ugly ad units. C'mon Google you could be more creative ;)

S.Palali

lcampers




msg:1359839
 6:13 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've seen a big increase in ctr for adsense since the 'advertise on this site' link was put on.

there is no formula.

just make a good site and have good information and people will go there.

3kaday




msg:1359840
 9:59 pm on Dec 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

the "advertise on this site" thing started appearing on tuesday and revenue dropped by $200. I immediately opted out and today is back up again. If you use blended ads, its like a 100% increase in the "ads by gooooooooogle" nonsense and just ruins your attempt at blending.

Sense_able




msg:1359841
 12:36 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you use blended ads, its like a 100% increase in the "ads by gooooooooogle" nonsense and just ruins your attempt at blending.

Well said. I agree 100%.

Marcia




msg:1359842
 12:54 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

You all may already know this, but opting out from the "Advertise on this site" link won't stop advertisers from site targeting.

You can opt out of that too, which I've done. I don't want CPM running, it doesn't suit my sites.

trader




msg:1359843
 4:58 am on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Agree Marcia, CPM is not for me since my sites are lower traffic.

Where do you go to opt out of CPM? I don't see that option for some odd reason. In fact, I did not even realize I was in CPM.

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