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help me find a good niche
kinda hard for me
benaman




msg:1317459
 12:39 am on Dec 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a music related site with 300-400 visitors/day and i earn about 60-70$/month with adsense. Now i want to try those niche sites all the ppl talk about but... i don't know...seems like all the subjects i have in mind are saturated....hundreds of results. so how would my page be found if there are so many sites using that niche?

 

inbound




msg:1317460
 1:03 am on Dec 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Why doesn't someone start a niche site which is all about how to start niche sites ;)

ve3cnu




msg:1317461
 2:02 am on Dec 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Excellent idea.

Nitrous




msg:1317462
 2:13 am on Dec 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good sites earn.

You cannot make a site that is "good" if you are not THE expert in this field.

It's REALLY that simple.

Good sites that offer the user something, work.

95 percent of sites are basically crap! They are all wanabees. REAL publishers can write good intereszting content, (not just "content") that people want!

That basically is it!

Those publishers win. And always have a valued site that can earn without google.

gendude




msg:1317463
 4:36 am on Dec 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

There is nothing wrong with setting up a site which has fierce competition. If that was the case, then there would only be one store per town, one gas station, etc. etc..

If the subject that you are interested in is really big and competitive, if anything, that leaves you an opening - you can focus on one or two aspects of the field, and "be the expert" as we all like to say.

I faced this earlier this summer, when I decided I'd write about one of the two biggest things I'm interested in, we'll call the topic "Widgets". It has a lot of money and interest involved in many aspects, covering a lot of age ranges and income levels.

There were several huge "Master Widget" sites that covered a lot of aspects about Widgets, but didn't go into a lot of detail about certain individual aspects of Widgets - sure, they'd do a fluff piece a few times a month, but that was the extent. They offered a lot of things that I could not offer.

However, I focused on the areas about Widgets that interested me - I setup a site about one aspect of Widgets, that would only interest certain people. I researched and researched, and found all kinds of resources and news and topics about this area of Widgets.

It took a while, but now when people want to know about Widgets in general, they still go to one of the Master Widget sites for the most part, but if they want to know about a particular aspect of Widgets, they end up at my site.

It's now to the point where I get enough traffic to cover the costs of the site, and very nearly my own time, and where I've been "noticed" by a few of the Master Widget sites. I've even gotten a few legitimate links from them - I'm not going to threaten their business anytime soon, and they wouldn't be able to get enough of a return off of setting up a section of their site to cover the things I do as in-depth as I do, and so I'm doing okay - I should only see exponential growth over the coming year.

Whatever you do, if you tackle something like this, it's got to be something you really enjoy and know a lot about or want to know a lot about, and there have got to be openings in it - small subsections that aren't covered.

Just ask yourself what's missing as far as websites, in regards to your interests, and focus on those.

Better to start off with a very narrow focus and then broaden it as you go, than starting off with a broad focus and trying to maintain that.

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:1317464
 8:23 am on Dec 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

One thing for sure, if anyone here thinks of a really good niche subject they are hardly likely to tell you ;)

jetteroheller




msg:1317465
 9:07 am on Dec 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

One thing for sure, if anyone here thinks of a really good niche subject they are hardly likely to tell you ;)

No problem to mention a good niche and all the know how to exploit that good niche.

Just after signing a license agreement over 25% of all advertising revenues...

frox




msg:1317466
 11:30 am on Dec 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

jetteroheller, count me in for the 25% deal :-)

More seriously, from the little you told us, I think you are a good example of how things work: on one hand you have a good (very good?) niche, on the ther hand you are a real expert in your niche, and you are devoting to your site a LOT of energy, travelling to document yourself and regularly publishing fresh articles with difficoult to find information.

So, returning to the OP, a good niche is certainly a factor, but there other important factors too. In one word, write about what you know (and love knowing, so that at the beginning when the site won't be paying enough it will still taste like an hobby)

webdreamer




msg:1317467
 1:31 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, benaman it sounds like you are into music, since the website you mention here is a music site. Perhaps your niche is "music."

The secret is creating a music site that is so user friendly, and so full of great music content, that you will be destined to succeed with your website. Why will your website be so successful? Because your visitors will surely return to such an excellent website.

If you put your visitors "music" interest first, your guaranteed success will undoubtedly unfold before your eyes.

It does take work.

Pick something you love and build it to the moon!

annej




msg:1317468
 3:37 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yep, find a niche that you love and develop it. That's what I've done. I know if I branched out to related topics I could do better but I just don't have the spirit to do it. It's an awful lot of work to develop one.

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