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Google Analytics & AdSense - Is it possible?
I want to set up AdSense as a "goal"
martingale




msg:1431671
 5:52 am on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

So I signed up for Google Analytics and I have even seen a few stats come through (just one update in 3 days, but hey, better than nothing). It looks pretty cool.

Now most of my site's revenue comes from AdSense clicks. Anyone know if it is possible to somehow have urchin/analytics track my AdSense conversions? I want to set up a "goal" where an AdSense click counts as a "conversion" on my site. I'd put my average EPC in as the value of the conversion... even better, if somehow Google could look up and use the real value, which somewhere in Google they obviously do know... but that is probably just wishful thinking.

Right now if a user "bounces" off my site they are treated the same way in the stats no matter whether they left via AdSense or whether they just hit the back button. I need to know...

It's important for me to know which of my marketing efforts produce users who click on AdSense ads, and which produce users who just read the content but don't click the ads... it's only worth my *paying* for the users who click ads. I don't mind having the others on my site, but I sure don't want to spend money getting them!

Right now I have my own tracking via some JS that detects *some* AdSense clicks, but not all. I have some scripts that eat my log files and report things like which referrers/search-terms resulted in what % of the ad clicks and such. It seems to me that Google, being Big Brother here, ought to be able to do a much better job of this than my crappy scripts do.

 

JoaquinG




msg:1431672
 11:19 am on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I also wish this.

Clicks and conversions of my advertisers.

bumpski




msg:1431673
 12:52 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

This could be exactly the reason Adsense no longer works in IFrames.

rustybrick




msg:1431674
 1:49 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is a link to a blog with your answer, but I will break the link, he has code and instructions on how to set it up.

digital point DOT com/~shawn/2005/11/track-adsense-clicks-with-google-analytics.html

Frequent




msg:1431675
 2:44 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wouldn't this be a huge red flag to Google that your site is MFA if your only goal is adsense clicks?

Even if I could do it, no way I would.

Freq---

mertero




msg:1431676
 2:49 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think it is 100% okay to have a site that the 'sole purpose' is AdSense.

I mean, it simply means that AdSense is the only way you are making money with the site. It doesn't mean the site is not legitimate.

Ron

[edited by: tedster at 7:33 pm (utc) on Dec. 11, 2005]
[edit reason] remove extended signature [/edit]

martingale




msg:1431677
 4:34 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Having a business model that relies on advertising for revenue does not make your site "made for adsense". Think about newspapers, or magazines, think about blogs, are they all made for adsense? Should none of those engage in PPC advertising because they rely on adsense for revenue?

My site fits into that category. I have tons of articles on a particular topic, relating to a large dollar purchasing decision that people typically spend significant time to research. My articles are fairly long, typically 800-1000 words. The site is the furthest thing from "made for adsense".

But the business model is entirely advertising. I don't sell anything. I simply run articles that help people reach a decision, and AdSense provides links to places they can go and buy, or continue researching. I generate good qualified clicks for my advertisers, and the ads are a useful service to my readers.

I *do* advertise my site, and spend money doing that, but clearly it is not financially sane for me to advertise to people who don't click ads. If someone who doesn't click ads finds my site--fine--but I don't want to spend PPC money to get those readers.

Frequent




msg:1431678
 4:43 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Just so my intentions are clear. I am not saying that any site that runs adsense as it's sole means of revenue generation is a MFA site.

I am just saying that if Google sees that the only goal you have targeted is clicking on the ads they may initially assume otherwise.

Some suggestions for other goals:

User bookmarks the site.
User uses "email this to a friend".
User registers at the site.
User submits contact form.
User visits more than "X" pages.

Freq---

DamonHD




msg:1431679
 5:24 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi Frequent,

Yes, I'd love to do the "visits more than N pages" in GA, but I don't think that's possible...

If the only Goal (metric) they give us is a dubious/simplistic one, then that's what we'll track, I guess!

Rgds

Damon

martingale




msg:1431680
 5:36 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I currently track with a bunch of perl scripts that eat my log files. I do currently track "visits more than N" pages (N = 3), "bookmarks site", and a few other things like that. There is a VERY big difference between users who do those things, and users who click ads.

In particular, some sources seem to refer users that are very PPC oriented, and they click ads. Those are valuable places to advertise. Other places refer users who are not PPC oriented and those users tend NOT to click ads, even if they do visit pages, bookmark the site, etc.

Most importantly, there are some keywords that if I buy PPC ads for them, lots of users come and sign up, bookmark the site, etc., but do not click on any ads. I like having those users. I don't like incurring PPC charges to get them.

DamonHD




msg:1431681
 10:03 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi,

Yes, when I get a moment I should do some of that (Java) coding...

At the moment I do have a half-decent measure of stickiness, which I track as a conversion, and thus tune out the bungee visitors who are straight out again after the first page view with the cry: "WHO DID *YOUR* WEB DESIGN MISTER!" (Answer: me, and it shows!).

Rgds

Damon

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