| 11:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Right now? I would have to say don't bother.
Use Chitika or YPN.
Adsense are having problems with their targeting and it will be 10x easier to earn $30 with a different company.
Of course this could change, but if you put all your efforts into Adsense now, you might get very discouraged.
However, if you had say, 100 pages about products getting 10 impressions each per day, I think you would be reach your goal. If you stay away from Adsense.
| 11:29 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Not too hard at all actually. As long as you have the quality content and the targeted traffic, it wouldn't be a problem.
It's not going to come overnight, but any monetization of a website is going to take time to develop and build unless you are spending money to advertise/market the site.
| 11:33 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Well I have a couple of ideas and am developing one of the sites right now. I hope to finish it in the next 3 months. I think that I have a good idea, even though there is more then a little competition. (But I am targeting somthing that they dont really go into so then again you could say I have no competition).
Oh and ill look into the other ppc sites too.
| 12:55 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I used to make 25$ a day with adsence. Since the google updates, my increase in traffic, and my switch to Y! i am making a average 70$ a day.
| 1:06 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
great this is what really insires me :)
I looked around the last hour or so and totally chaned my mind about adsense though. I looked at the threads about Y! and if its still like that in a few months when i get my site up that what I will go with.
| 1:18 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|I looked around the last hour or so and totally chaned my mind about adsense though. |
I wouldn't make your mind up about Adsense based on someone elses experience.
The *best* think you can do for your site is to test out Adsense (for like a month or so), then test out the other programs for a similar period of time or simultaneously.
You may find that your earnings are way above what you've read and if you didn't *try* it, you could be missing out on some good money.
| 2:53 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
It has been quite hard for me,and took about one year. I hope the rest of the road will be more smooth. It was much harder to go from nothing to 10$, compared to going from 10$ to 30$.
| 3:03 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
sfatih was right its hard to go from nothing to $10 this was the stage where your site are beggining to mature. you may either go up or go nowhere. This is the hardest part, you have to do a lot of experiments, link exchange, promotion and so on.
My site just started in the middle of september and I earned $12 that month, on october i gained another $75, now it was closed to $100 to think that it was still 10th of november, the only question I have in mind is, "will I get this money?"
| 3:25 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
The choice between AdSense and YPN or whatever is not a big deal, certainly not something you need to lose sleep over at this point. What you need to succeed with ANY advertiser or affiliate relationship is traffic: lots of it, and as goal-oriented (i.e. not engaged in random timewasting) as possible.
As for earning $30 a day, if you're starting from no site and no traffic I'd say it's going to be hard. But possible. Stay focused on that niche where you have no competition - that sounds like the most promising approach.
| 3:39 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I used to use Adsense on my site, but have now removed the code after I found they are not crediting me with impressions or clicks arriving at my sit via adwords. Also adsense blocked clicks from isps in my local area, even though I adveritise prominantly in my local newspapers web directory, which of course is going to generate more local internet traffic. I cannot recomend adsense at all.
| 3:48 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Carl, how did you find out they were not crediting you with clicks from Adwords?
And, original poster - do put your advertising code inside an include. Just trust me :)
| 3:53 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
We make #*$!x.00 a day but my friends wife started a few hobby sites and is making 50 bucks a day or so within 5 months at a casual pace. You can do it!
| 4:06 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Alex, two ways, first I checked the ads on my site everyday for content (of course realizing that I would not and should not get credit from my isp), and got suspicious when I followed a keyword thru adwords back to my site and then clicked on an ad on my site and did not show an impression by adsense. Second, I then asked some one to check on my theory from their home computer and I didn't get credit for the impression or the click.
| 4:10 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
buy an existing domain that someone has given up on. It's already aged. Google will show you sites in their search results that are abandoned -- Domain name only, no description. Lookup whois offer them a couple hundred and see what happens
| 4:22 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Wish I'd bought an existing domain name. Top 10 for my keyword in Google are domain names purchased pre 2000! I don't come up in the SERPs at all for my target keyword but come up first for other keyword combinations. Tough.
| 8:50 am on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Start out immediately with YPN or Chitika. All the people reporting drops in revenue are real, it's not just a coincidence! Now is the WORSE time to get into Adsense, it will only take away your motivation.
| 7:32 pm on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
thanks for all the advice. I just wanted to know if I had a huge chance or not. I am sure that I will make some sort of cash since I will probably make more then one site (I am still learning html and css and am having a blast putting together a webpage even though its nowhere close to what I want it too look like!).
| 7:52 pm on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Reaching $30/day isn't so hard when you have some experience but you have to realize that most people don't make so much.
I don't want to give you bad hope but because you don't have any experience with developing websites it may take a while before you'll start earning enough money to live.
There are multiple ways to make money on the web. You can develop content websites and use services like AdSense, YPN, Chitika, Amazon Associates, ... to earn money but there are also other options like promoting affiliate programs with PPC services like AdWords.
If you want to develop content websites then you'll need to get a fair amount of visitors a day. There are many factors but generally you will need at last a few thousands a day to reach $30-50/day.
One of the important things is that you shouldn't give up too early. It takes some time to get indexed in the major search engines.
| 8:01 pm on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
"but there are also other options like promoting affiliate programs with PPC services like AdWords. "
I dont really understand how affiliate programs work.
| 8:25 pm on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
It is possible to make money with Adsense, the amount varies of course, but it can be pretty unstable (check this forum for all the recent posts of people taking massive hits in income generated from the program).
| 9:58 pm on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I do snoop around quite alot. It always intrests me to see two different threads in the same day one saying "My profits are up 200% today! Anyone else see this?" and 10 people agreeing and then antoher thread posted an hour later saying "OMG! What has adsense done? Anyone else seen their money go down by half?" and 10 people agreeing, lol.
| 10:14 pm on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Alex, two ways, first I checked the ads on my site everyday for content (of course realizing that I would not and should not get credit from my isp), and got suspicious when I followed a keyword thru adwords back to my site and then clicked on an ad on my site and did not show an impression by adsense. Second, I then asked some one to check on my theory from their home computer and I didn't get credit for the impression or the click. |
You do know that you're not allowed to click the ads on your site right?
It could be that Google was just discounting YOUR clicks, not all clicks from your local ISP.
You don't have to be at home for Google to know it's you...
| 10:35 pm on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
thats kinda stupid though. If a kid looked at my site who lives next door and clicked on an ad of mine I wouldnt get paid for it? You get paid for giving your trafic to the other sites right? Then why would it matter who its from (other then you yourself)
| 10:50 pm on Nov 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
How hard is it to earn $30 - $50 a day?....
Find yourself a nice niche market/subject.
Build a well "constructed" website for SEO by search engines and people. Consider the placement of ads in page design. Also consider the content of page, (Adsense being "contextual advertising"), so that the correct type of ads will appear. Use Adwords, (although I never have).
Constantly check your stats. What keywords and phrases are people using to find your pages? Are they the right ones etc etc?
It was said before that the hardest part is from $0 - $10 a day, after that, (considering that you've gone through a lot of the "trial and error" stages by then), getting $10+ a day is not as difficult.
| 10:27 am on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|How hard is it to earn $30 - $50 a day?.... |
I think its quite hard actually, well for me anyway. While some people are lucky enough to have high paying keywords, my site is in a low paying area. For some 30 or even 3 clicks gets them there $30 a day, where as for me it is more like 200+. I spent a long time around the $5-$10 mark, but thankfully have increased now, although still find it difficult to reach that $30 a day target. I am amazed at these people who quote $100,$1000 day; that is just a real eye popper!
My target is at the moment $75 a day. It might seem like small fry to many, but to get $75 a day consistantly, basically matches what I get paid in my 9-5 job. That would be mind blowing. Sadly my hard-earned $ get converted into local currency here and so half of that money is 'lost', but Adsense is at the moment helping me buy those little extras. At the moment Adsense is my friend (touch wood)...
| 7:58 pm on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
All right I did a little more research on my competition and got very excited. I know that my site can be better then theirs and will definately have more material that at least some people will want to come and look at. I was looking at alexi.com at the page views per day for these sites...
This months peak views a day:
my #1 competitor = 20m page views a day?!?!?! Am I reading this right?
My #2 competitor = 10m! WHOA!
My #3 competitor - 1.7m a day! And this site is just plain horible!
There are really no other worthy sites by the way. All the other ones are registered with free
domains. Is this a good thing? Is this really promising?
| 8:19 pm on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Alexa's traffic information isn't really accurate. Alexa gets their data from people who have the Alexa toolbar installed and there aren't really many people who use that toolbar.
The 20m, 10m and 1.7m is probably not pageviews a day but something else. I guess it's either "Traffic Rank" or "Reach per million users".
| 8:21 pm on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
You're reading it wrong. Alexa doesn't even give absolute traffic figures as far as I know, just relative figures compares to all web pageviews. On their site they explain exactly what each of the statistical charts is measuring.
| 9:37 pm on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I put in the competition sites domain name, then clicked the 'page views' tab. They then show a graph called 'daily page views per million' the graph goes up to 20, 10, and 1.7 for each of the sites.
Am I reading this wrong?
The game that these sites are on is a very popular browser based java MMORPG. There are not alot of great sites on this game. I could understand that this if this chart is a little inacurate...
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