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sun818

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Msg#: 1026 posted 8:49 pm on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am thinking if I were Google.com irrespective of what Bot visits my web site, the data all goes into one giant database. Why crawl the same web page twice? So, my question is - will your content appear quicker in the main Google index if you use AdSense on those pages? My thought is that since the web page is already crawled by the AdSense robot Google can include in their main index.

 

loanuniverse

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Msg#: 1026 posted 11:55 pm on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nope it will not. I think that the only thing that helps getting new sites or even new content crawled is getting linked from a page with decent PR.

Lately I have noticed that it takes about 10 days to three weeks to see new pages reflecting any kind of PR or showing in the index if I link them from my main page. This is with a PR5 mainpage not sure how a higher PR page would work.

However, those same pages are crawled by adsense pretty quick and showing targeted ads in a couple of hours.

chiyo

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Msg#: 1026 posted 12:02 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

they are two completely diff databases with diff purposes.

Blue_Fin

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Msg#: 1026 posted 3:13 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Your question is addressed in the AdSense FAQs.

sun818

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Msg#: 1026 posted 3:24 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you mean this one, https://www.google.com/adsense/faq#basics6 , my question is different.

Jenstar

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Msg#: 1026 posted 3:48 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Some have reported having pages appear in the index that have only been spidered by mediabot. This has been reported by a few different people.

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sun818

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Msg#: 1026 posted 4:05 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the link Jenstar, I had not read that specific thread until now. That helps a lot.

freitasm

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Msg#: 1026 posted 9:41 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Lately I have noticed that it takes about 10 days to three weeks to see new pages reflecting any kind of PR or showing in the index if I link them from my main page.

I wonder how come my pages get into Google in a maximum of two days after being published.

Also, my site was just accepted (a couple of days ago) into news.google.com! I've seen a new page being on the news index in 15 minutes. That was fast.

daugava

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Msg#: 1026 posted 6:43 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ok, I know that official version is "Mediabot doesn't speak to Googlebot".

However, my experience seems to suggest somewhat otherwise.
Here's an example.
I opened a new site with many pages. Some of them are linked from my existing old site and some are not.

The ones linked are now showing up in Google index.
Why is that? My theory: these pages have been opened, Mediabot ran and passed a message to Googlebot: "Hey, check out these new pages!".

Of course other explanation could be that Googlebot follows and indexes external links... do you think it does that?
I guess it has to at some point, otherwise how could they get those millions of sites spidered in the first place.

Andy

Jenstar

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Msg#: 1026 posted 7:04 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Of course other explanation could be that Googlebot follows and indexes external links... do you think it does that?

Yes, it does. It is well known that if you want to get indexed quickly, find yourself a link from a high PR site that is cached daily by Googlebot. Mediabot, from what I see, does not follow links at all.

The other possible explanation, other than mediabot telling Googlebot is if you visited the pages with the Google toolbar on (so you can see PR of sites). Google says this doesn't work, but several here have proven otherwise.

cyberprosper

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Msg#: 1026 posted 3:47 am on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

My experience is that putting adsense code, does, in fact draw out Googlebot within a day or two. It would not make crawling sense for the databases to be completely separate. In other words, pages that mediabot grabs should be thrown into the main index.. and if they are, then it is not surprising that Googlebot goes to see if the page has been updated. Google, Inc. might consider this "no help" in your rankings... but it can be a help in getting pages in faster.

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