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Share your trend for Adsense earnings
GoldenHammer




msg:1327730
 3:18 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Would you like to share a chart of your monthly earnings history in a relative scale (0-100%) that sets the highest earnings to 100%. We may see some interesting patterns and a wider prospective in respect to the changes of AS.

See this sample [photos-of-the-year.com].

 

ebuilder




msg:1327760
 4:12 am on Nov 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

THe only thing I can conclude is a larger number of sites in my niche not fewer advertisers. The same people show ads on my site now that were there 12 months ago. WIth the new referral program I will probably take an even bigger hit.

What really bites..I have been with adsense 18 months and can't even get a response via email when I can't login to my account. Yahoo called me personally the day after I was approved.

GoldenHammer




msg:1327761
 3:43 am on Nov 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Perhaps we can have a better arrangement, let say make it a monthly post for the trend for the past 3 months. In this case, we will post the chart from Aug 1 to Oct 31 in Nov (this month). And we can post another one from Sep 1 to Nov 30 a month later.

It may also include some explanation for possible gains/ drops in term of the site's local behavours, while some may be due to the impact from a major change on AS in the past 3 months.

tlainevool




msg:1327762
 6:13 am on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I run AdMoolah and I saw the suggestion to host this type of data on the site. I have a few thoughts on this:

1) This data is similar to the data we already collect. We just do it on a monthly basis instead of a daily basis, and we collect actual dollar amount, not relative data.

2) I'm not sure if the typical user would want to go through all the trouble of getting daily data and normalizing it.

3) This information seems to be not as useful when you throw in the noise of people tweaking ads, varying traffic levels, etc.

4) This information could be considered a breach of the confidentiality paragraph of the AdSense TOS which states: "You agree not to disclose Google Confidential Information without Google's prior written consent. "Google Confidential Information" includes without limitation: ... click-through rates or other statistics relating to Site performance in the Program provided to You by Google". The last thing I want to do is get the users of AdMoolah in trouble with Google.

So, I was thinking, to help with problems 1, 2 and 3, it may make more sense just to collect monthly CPC and CTR statistics. This could be done in a relative way, like was done on the graphs in this thread. The first month that the user enters into AdMoolah would be taken as a baseline, and then from that point on, the user could be asked for a % difference between the baseline and the current month. This would make entering the data easier. I think seeing trends in CTR and CPC could be very interesting. AdMoolah could report trends or a single site, across all entered data, and by category.

Problem 4 could be a bigger issue. I will send an email to AdSense support to see if they have any opinions.

Any input would be appreciated.

jahfingers




msg:1327763
 6:29 am on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

[tinypic.com ]

November down, thanks to YPN up ;)

david_uk




msg:1327764
 7:14 am on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think Admoolah could work well, but has limited data at the moment due to a low number of data entries. Hopefully this will pick up. I've added last months earnings, but am not too keen on adding my URL.

It would be handy if you were allowed to enter other data such as impressions / clicks but that is against the TOS. However, from the data on total earnings, unique visitors and page views I'm sure they could make some useful comparisons that didn't violate the TOS.

I think their stats need working on. I'd like to see a summary by category function to start with.

GoldenHammer




msg:1327765
 7:17 am on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

[4) This information could be considered a breach of the confidentiality paragraph of the AdSense TOS which states: "You agree not to disclose Google Confidential Information without Google's prior written consent. "Google Confidential Information" includes without limitation: ... click-through rates or other statistics relating to Site performance in the Program provided to You by Google". The last thing I want to do is get the users of AdMoolah in trouble with Google. ]

From my understanding, Google allows the publisher to disclose the exact earnings and thus a presentation of the trend in earnings.

The presentation of CTR or eCPM may go into trouble with Adsense's TOS however as they are directly relevant to the site's performance.

GoldenHammer




msg:1327766
 7:55 am on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Actually, I have a simply excel worksheet with forumas that take the daily earnings as input, it will auto. generate an output coluum in a scale between 0-100%, and the chart will auto update based on this output data with a polygon line to show the trend.

All I need to do is just paste my earnings exported from the CSV file to this worksheet, it is handy enough. I would share this as a template if anyone would like to have it as a reference.

Mentat




msg:1327767
 8:16 am on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmm for me 7 nov was the best day ever on adsense.. dont know why?
Jagger 3 is working? My traffic is rising

tlainevool




msg:1327768
 8:21 pm on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I got a response from Google about my TOS compliance question on relative information. They said no, you can't reveal even relative info.

geckofuel




msg:1327769
 9:44 pm on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm getting more traffic and more clicks than ever but much LESS per click.

There is one page that I monitor very closely because it makes $2-$6 per click and is my best performer (for well over 1 year). Before Jagger, I was getting about 2-3 clicks per day on this one page. However, now I'm getting more than 10 click per day, but averaging only in the single digit cents per click. At the end of the day, instead of having made about $8 from this one page, I've made less than $1.

Je ne sais pas.

GoldenHammer




msg:1327770
 2:33 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Quoted:

** I got a response from Google about my TOS compliance question on relative information. They said no, you can't reveal even relative info. ***

I assume you are refering to CTR and eCPM, but not the actual earnings.

dzcap




msg:1327771
 3:00 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

geckofuel, that's what I am experiencing. Why bring more traffic if it is just going to lower your revenue?

tlainevool




msg:1327772
 3:50 am on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

I assume you are refering to CTR and eCPM, but not the actual earnings.

Correct, monthly earnings can be revealed, but nothing about CTR and eCPM can be.

mhhfive




msg:1327773
 3:52 am on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

neato. I've never met the admoolah guy. I really like his site (and I'm obviously not related to him at all).

How about YPN data? Or eMiniMall ad data? It would also be cool to correlate all the earnings with Alexa/technorati/blogpulse site info...

admooolah is awesome! keep up the good work! I like being able to see aggregated stats. :)

farmboy




msg:1327774
 4:14 am on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

I don't have any fancy graphs to offer, but I did put pencil to paper to try & predict the future based on my recent earnings trend.

If things continue the way they are now, beginning December 2 at about 2PM I'll have to start paying AdSense for having ads on my sites instead of the other way around.

farmboy

tlainevool




msg:1327775
 6:37 am on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

neato. I've never met the admoolah guy. I really like his site (and I'm obviously not related to him at all).

How about YPN data? Or eMiniMall ad data? It would also be cool to correlate all the earnings with Alexa/technorati/blogpulse site info...

admooolah is awesome! keep up the good work! I like being able to see aggregated stats. happy!

I'm glad yoy like the site.

YPN and Chitika do not allow sharing of even gross monthly earnings, so I haven't been collecting data from those programs. I'm hoping once YPN is out of beta they might relax their terms a little bit.

Putting Alexa info on there might be a good idea, but I've never really gotten the feeling that Alexa data was very accurate. We collect unique visitors and pageviews at the site already, so hopefully those are a little more reliable.

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