| 12:56 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Adsense-to-Overture arbitrage |
Do you mean AdWords-to-Overture?
I'm not sure I follow AdSense to Overture or AdSense to AdSense?
| 1:02 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
That title is a bit misleading IMHO.
| 1:06 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|That title is a bit misleading IMHO. |
And most likely incorrect.
| 1:28 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
The Adsense TOS seem to suggest that made for adsense sites are against their policies, so the original poster has hit the nail on the head - it's about quality control.
As roitracker suggested, there is a business model where it takes two clicks on Adsense ads to take a visitor to where they might want to go. More money for Google.
Perhaps they could use some of this extra money to fund the quality control?
| 1:29 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Do you mean AdWords-to-Overture? |
Yes, they're bidding on adwords - but the ads are on the content network, taking you to a page full of adsense ads (hence AS-to-AS).
|That title is a bit misleading IMHO. |
I'm looking into my rose-tinted crystal ball, so the title is for the future. Then again, maybe it's all just a bit of wishful thinking on my part. :)
I mean, think about it. If Google got rid of the made-for-adsense sites, scrapers, splogs, arbitrage advertisers, etc they'd instantly improve (1) the quality of their adwords listings, (2) the quality of the content network, and (3) the quality of the SERPs (since spammers won't have the incentive & benefit of the AS get-rich-quick program).
Since money is the root of all evil, and Google's motto is "don't be evil", until the big G implements some quality control into AdSense they're going against all of their own principals IMHO.
| 3:41 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
What is made for adsense anyway?
Show me a site that has adsense on it that couldn't be accused of being made for adsense.
| 3:45 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Any site that went online before the birth of Adsense is by definition *not made for adsense*.
| 3:51 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Show me a site that has adsense on it that couldn't be accused of being made for adsense. |
How about a site that existed pre-AdSense? Take a look in my profile to start. And there are thousands of other sites in the AdSense program that go back before AdSense was even a gleam in Google's eye. Of course, you could still ACCUSE any of those sites of being made for AdSense--but that wouldn't make it an accurate accusation.
The claim that "all sites are in some sense made for AdSense" is a red herring meant to divert attention from the reality that there ARE many sites that have been built from the ground up with the sole intention of making money from AdSense, and would not exist otherwise.
They're just white noise. I think one reason that Google doesn't make getting rid of them more of a priority is not that they make a lot of money from them, but that Smart Pricing makes their impact on advertisers -- and even on legit. publishers -- fairly negligible.
| 4:42 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
My main sites started in 1995--1997.
Since AS didn't exist then, and the sites have always been "pro bono", then I'd be kinda cross if you accused me of having MFA "rubbish" sites.
(That doesn't say my sites are anything other than "noise" of course, though I like to think otherwise!)
| 5:00 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|It's bad enough when you get a bunch of people doing Adsense-to-Overture arbitrage, but AdSense-to-AdSense arbitrage is just wasting everyones time (not to mention frustrating, both from an advertiser point of view AND an end-user point of view). |
I put all of them in the URL filter.
I do not want to frustrate my visitors.
| 5:40 am on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Its amazing how some of these people, or companies, make websites with no other porpuse except to make money, filthy capilists! Shame on them!
My biggest propblem with using this filthy capilistic model, is my inability in deciding if I should buy a corvette, or a porsche. The vette is wickedly fast, but the porsche with its mid engine handles great on the back roads.
| 5:44 am on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|My biggest propblem with using this filthy capilistic model, is my inability in deciding if I should buy a corvette, or a porsche. The vette is wickedly fast, but the porsche with its mid engine handles great on the back roads. |
Nah your biggest problem is that you have a speed limit.. hehe . Autobahn all the way.. ;)
| 5:51 am on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Where do people learn that the WWW is about free stuff and non-profit organizations?
Where, please, tell me where?
BTW, my idols: Ziff Davis, CMP United, Jupiter Media and so on : content exclusively for profits, I wish I had a share.
oh, and most of the newspaper as well.
| 6:07 am on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I don't think that everyone has a problem with the Internet being used to make money. A few would like it to be the pre-1993 days again, but probably not most.
The issue many people have with the arbitrage schemes, etc, IMHO of course, is that it fills the Net with junk worthless to all but the people who put it there, somewhat like the 10,000+ SPAM emails that I receive each day causing delays and meaning that I lose up to 25% of the mails that I'd like to receive when I toss out the junk.
I know that the people *doing* this stuff see it as harmless or somebody else's problem, but but of those who object find that it is *their* problem.
PS. Maybe it's just too early in the morning and I'm grumpy! Try me after my first tea!