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msg:1234354
 6:43 am on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

nice.

[finance.google.com...]

 

ganderla




msg:1234355
 7:22 am on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

The link from the home page is broken!

Nice

edit...

So is the one you posted.

vitaplease




msg:1234356
 7:24 am on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Nice drag'n on the graphs

Pass the Dutchie




msg:1234357
 9:36 am on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good stuff...but how do they plan make any money out of this? Do Google get any financial benefit if they refer a user to the WSJ who purchases a yearly subscription (or anyone for that matter)?

I can see how this could balloon for Google if they can place Adwords on articles they link to.

poster_boy




msg:1234358
 6:20 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

...how do they plan make any money out of this?

It'll keep me on Google properties, for one. And, Finance visitors - I'd imagine - are highly valuable.

I only search from Google, but was always sent to Yahoo's Finance section for news and quotes as Google used to direct all stock symbol queries there... but, no more. I like it.

mfishy




msg:1234359
 6:35 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

how do they plan make any money out of this?

Ads?

[finance.yahoo.com...]

Worked for those guys.

Mr_Fern




msg:1234360
 6:40 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

ha! @ them being their own top headlines

zafile




msg:1234361
 7:13 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sergey and Larry are pretty good at 'me too' strategies.

This one seems kind of silly knowing Yahoo has had the finance service for such a long time.

Thumbs down.

jtara




msg:1234362
 8:39 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I really like the way the news articles correspond and scroll with the graph. News articles are marked with letters, and there are letter references on the chart, corresponding to the articles.

What I don't like is that they are using line graphs and arithmetic scaling. Nobody uses line graphs and arithmetic scaling. Oh, except for consumer-oriented websites like Yahoo. And newspapers when they want to scare the bejebbers out of the public, and make dramatic news out of something that is less than it is. (Arithmetic scaling, while it seems "natural" to the public, distorts historical stock prices. Front-page stories on new highs or dramatic drops almost always use line graphs with arithmetic scaling. But the financial pages in the same newspapers use high-low-close stick graphs and semi-log scaling.)

They've done a nice of of Ajax-ifying the charts, but unfortunately, they also copied the worst features of Yahoo charts.

Chico_Loco




msg:1234363
 8:45 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Same thing, but done differently - and maybe differently enough to catch the masses! I bet google hope so.

Pass the Dutchie




msg:1234364
 8:57 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

what type of ads? Flashing banners like Yahoo? I don't think so. More G-Style to embed Adwords in articles on partner financial publishing sites. Unless Google publishes articles themselves I can't see how they can integrate Adwords on their own site.

Much preferred the name G-Money than Google Finance. Perhaps its on the way as I just noticed that www.gmoney.com is changing domain....hmmmmmm.

Nice....Google's Company Management trading history gets its info from Yahoo: Eric Schmidt > "Trading Activity - Yahoo Finance"

mfishy




msg:1234365
 10:10 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

what type of ads? Flashing banners like Yahoo? I don't think so. More G-Style to embed Adwords in articles on partner financial publishing sites. Unless Google publishes articles themselves I can't see how they can integrate Adwords on their own site.

I am lost here. Don't they integrate ads within their regular search? I assume there will be tons lining up to place ads everywhere and anywhere once traffic comes? The format matters not.

grelmar




msg:1234366
 11:03 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I love the way you can manipulate the graphs.

Also really like how they have Markers for the times various items come out on the news wire. Let's you see if any given news item has an effect on the price.

(NB: Between G announcing G finance and the writing of this post, their share price has dropped from 351 to 339.... hmmmm.... correlation?)

pshea




msg:1234367
 11:11 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Over the past year or two I have wondered when G was going to get on the finance stick. Now that they have, it is a just-OK-to-sub-par start. The graph link to news items is spectacular but the page design lacks any elegance whatsoever. The pictures of the Board of Directors and the rollovers to bio and trading activity is a nice feature. But big thumbs down to linking to Yahoo for so much of their data! It screams catch up and that is a big letdown for G admirers who, like me, much prefer the view as the lead dog. They could have crafted the finance home page to be something other than the zero that it is. The Discussion Groups are going to take some getting used to, my first impression is well, not impressed.

The 'More headlines' link at the end of the news listing takes you to news.google and that is a big mistake. If I want finance, I want to stay in finance, if I want general news, I'll go to news. I'm glad to see that gfinance is here, but I wish they had it more fleshed out before putting it into the open network and yes I do know it is beta. But have they forgotten they are Google and that the bar is higher for them?

zafile




msg:1234368
 2:01 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

"... their share price has dropped from 351 to 339.... hmmmm.... correlation?"

No, it's only the new release of IE 7 that is causing some panic among Google investors.

dragonken




msg:1234369
 3:35 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

the next one is google auctions?

superpower




msg:1234370
 5:53 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm a heavy user of Yahoo Finance and it looks like I will continue to be over at Yahoo. I was expecting something rivalling YF (or better). Looks like they decided to just put up a placeholder.

I'll explain:

1. The UI is lousy on the front page, a D-, and it is slightly better but still a C- on the stock pages. The front page is utterly useless except news related to the symbols I looked up. The main news column is the same or very close to what is "business" in G news.

2. Total lack of features. Where do I access my stock portfolio? There is a tab on the front page of Yahoo. I use this tracking feature all the time. Do I get stock symbol portfolios on GMoney?

3. What G calls "More Resources" (normally the most useful stuff) are at the bottom of the stock page (below the fold on my laptop), and they just send me off to all the other finance portals. Well hmm..

4. Too much of GMoney (ie all "More Resources") goes off to other sites. I don't like that, the inconsistency is annoying and unprofessional. Why would I go to G Finance then if all they have is a quote and some links to send me somewhere else? For example, I like to look up option contracts for the underlying security. On YF I am still on their site with the familiar navigation and consistency. I may go from there to click on the nav bar to look at my portfolio. With GMoney I'm offsite in some weird thing, no portfolio. There is no option chain on G.

5. The FLASH/AJAX chart is the one innovative item but it takes up the whole screen. It should be the kind of thing where you click off to a news-time-series section if you are interested. Or some other style of UI. I just don't find that compelling as the main headline feature of the stock page.

6. How do I look up mutual funds by group or browse by investing style? or fund family? Where are the prospectuses? Top performers? Any editorials? Currencies, bond/loan/mortgage rates?

7. Where is the technical analysis? Where do I run filters to screen stocks? I thought these high powered alpha geeks could give me some numbers, graphs, algos to play with. Chart comparisons? They send me off to Yahoo.

Verdict: F. If this was one guy I would give it a D+ (the plus for effort). An F is well-justified given this company's resources and hype. Here is another example of poor execution.

How can Google produce such crud with billions of dollars and thousands of employees on hand?

tomda




msg:1234371
 6:08 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

All links in G Finance Homepage are nofollow!

shri




msg:1234372
 6:34 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

There is a slight credibility issue with the blogs that they show.

Good traffic.. but my blog barely qualifies as a news source on some of the companies that I checked. :)

zootreeves




msg:1234373
 11:33 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I wish my balance sheet looked like this :)

[finance.google.com...]

300m




msg:1234374
 1:59 pm on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

The company that I work for is listed in G Finance and there is only one blog that is there. Mine. It is relevant and everything written only compliments the company, but it was not really intended for this orginally and now I need to spiff it up because I am pretty sure it is going to stay on the finance page and when the President finds out, he will demand I make it more professional looking for the sole purpose of the finance listing.

TinkyWinky




msg:1234375
 8:44 pm on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

When you search for tickers on regular goog I notice they have removed Yahoo's graphs GOOG [google.co.uk], but along top don't feature bloomberg - but have all the other key sites including Yahoo?

Go figure, Bloombergs got to be no.1 or 2 haven't they for financial reporting?

poster_boy




msg:1234376
 8:39 pm on Mar 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

From CNNMoney:

"Google Finance bums Yahoo engineer out

Jeremy Zawodny got his start at Yahoo (Research) programming its finance website. So the launch of Google Finance bummed him out, says the Yahoo engineer and blogger. He says that many of Google Finance's advantages over Yahoo -- a better ticker search, interactive charts which tie news events into changes in the stock price -- are things Zawodny's colleagues talked about adding to Yahoo Finance but never got around to actually building into the product. "I sure as hell hope this is a wake-up call!" he concludes."

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