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Coming soon: Google TV?
developing new search tools for digital video
Imaster




msg:1236707
 9:00 am on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

According to sources familiar with the plan, the search giant is courting broadcasters and cable networks with a new technology that would do for television what it has already done for the Internet: sort through and reveal needles of video clips from within the haystack archives of major network TV shows.

[zdnet.com.au...]
[slashdot.org...]

 

msgraph




msg:1236708
 2:04 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

To build the service, the company is recording live TV shows and indexing the related closed-caption text of the programming.

Old news

Query-free News Search [webmasterworld.com]

In our case the text consists of closed captioning of TV news, and we are looking for relevant news articles on the web.

goodroi




msg:1236709
 5:19 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

That technology has already been created by a major search company for a private client. It deals with more than just indexing close captioning.

HughMungus




msg:1236710
 6:12 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I can see this being valuable for media professionals but not for the average user. The average user watches and listens to the news rather passively and uses text-based news for more active information gathering. Not very innovative.

jcoronella




msg:1236711
 6:40 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

At my Gym they have TV's on with closed captioning and no sound. You can listen on an FM band if you want but I never do. Reading the captions so much made me notice that the captions are riddled with typos, especially for news stories.

(although when the President is talking you are never quite sure if it was a typo or he actually said it)

hdpt00




msg:1236712
 6:45 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I wish they'd stop working on new, quite useless features to the majority, and fix the SERPs. When is the press release going to come out that sites 6 months or less are allowed to rank. Unless your CNN or BBC you aren't getting any breaking stories to the top of google any time soon, even if CNN rips the article from you.

Way to go google, can't wait to search through captions.

bears5122




msg:1236713
 7:27 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

They can't even get their basic search results to work.

How many new features is Google going to implement that it can't do properly? <cough> froogle, images <cough>

ggrot




msg:1236714
 8:25 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes, completely useless to the average Joe in accomplishing things the average joe is already doing. Bandwidth is increasing, TiVo is popular, the average Joe is becoming less average in their passiveness in watching a stream of one-way TV. The average joe demands more interactivity every day.

mahlon




msg:1236715
 8:25 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

this was an idea that is very similar to one I had for Google, way back when GoogleGuy was asking us for ideas.

HughMungus




msg:1236716
 9:35 pm on Dec 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

this was an idea that is very similar to one I had for Google, way back when GoogleGuy was asking us for ideas.

It's a *very* old idea and it's been tried.

[google.com...]

Why bother searching and indexing video for words and phrases when you can rely on abstracts?

kpaul




msg:1236717
 2:22 am on Dec 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

{Why bother searching and indexing video for words and phrases when you can rely on abstracts? }

Why? Well, same reason Google recently doubled their index size. Same reason MSN is courting webmaster early in the game.

The SE Wars are on, my man. ;)

If someone has this (or another feature) that no one else has, they stay ahead a little...

-kpaul

hdpt00




msg:1236718
 3:04 am on Dec 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

GE just put out a new washer and dryer that is also a whiteboard and book case. Cool! I'm sure this will win them all of the market now.

Adding stuff that barely anyone will use while letting SERPs detiorate yields nothing.

kpaul




msg:1236719
 4:19 am on Dec 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

it's a marketing thing...

tolachi




msg:1236720
 5:31 pm on Dec 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

It is not a marketing thing and it is far more comprehensive than searching an abstract. There is a huge amount of programming gathering dust out there that could become a resource.

Check out speechbot:

[speechbot.research.compaq.com...]

This works far better than I had imagined anything could right now. Indexing video doesn't seem that preposterous at all.

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