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Googles first SEC filing
NFFC




msg:1234212
 5:16 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

[sec.gov...]

The filing is a REGDEX which I believe involves a sale of securites, can anybody fill in the gaps in my knowledge?

 

Brett_Tabke




msg:1234213
 5:29 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

[gsionline.com...]

REG D
Companies selling securities in reliance on a Regulation D exemption or a Section 4(6) exemption from the registration provisions of the '33 Act must file a Form D as notice of such a sale. The form must be filed no later than 15 days after the first sale of securities. The exact form type is usually REGDEX, but may be a REG D-1 or similar. Reg D's are not filed electronically and are not currently available on LIVEDGAR.

lazerzubb




msg:1234214
 5:53 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

sale of securites

Which means what???

dauction




msg:1234215
 6:09 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

Simply means they are putting some stock up for sale..Raising cash
you can speculate further

NFFC




msg:1234216
 6:15 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Reg D's are not filed electronically

Is there a paper copy availible?

Welcome to WebmasterWorld dauction

lazerzubb




msg:1234217
 7:01 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

WOW great find NFFC.

dauction




msg:1234218
 7:20 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

NNFC..here you go

[sec.gov...]

NFFC




msg:1234219
 7:29 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

LOL dauction, I got caught in that loop earlier they are just txt and html versions of the same doc. From what I can gather the fliling is a matter of public record but just not availble online. I believe the hard copy will show who, how much and at what price....could be interesting:)

SuperSoup




msg:1234220
 7:32 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

this is not nessesaraly a good thing once you go public or sell some of your stocks you main goal automaticaly shifts from quality to SHAREHOLDER value. :(

look at yahoo, looksmart ect.

(edited by: SuperSoup at 7:33 pm (utc) on April 7, 2002)

dauction




msg:1234221
 7:32 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

Just standard filings..

They simply sold shares to a group of investors

because they need the cash? or because they were approached by the investors?

Private companies are private for a reason

it would seem google is growing fast ..still hiring..adding new services ..new "products"
This is great..but "this" takes cash

It's either dilute the company with issuing more shares (bringing in more investors ..or possibly selling more to a current group) or
paying the lenders for the growth

usually MUCH better signal that you are able to raise that cash through investors than lenders

It would appear the paid "adword" program is wheere they are counting onn gaining revenues...

I wouldnt worry about the finacial health of google unless you see their revenue generating programs (new and old) not being accpted ..or utilized if you will..

How can you tell if it is popular?

Well wuith a private company you have no finacial records to look at so you kind of wing it and get the pulse of the community that would should be usingh the product..

You might want check the pulse of this forum for starters ;)

dauction




msg:1234222
 7:35 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

Supersoup,

I havent really even been following..is Google ready to do an IPO?

SuperSoup




msg:1234223
 7:36 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have no idea

Brett_Tabke




msg:1234224
 7:43 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

No indiction of that Dacution (welcome to the board - thanks for the clarification).

There were two trial ballons launched last year.

The definitive thread on all it:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Anyone with Lex-us/nex-us access? Do a search on google...

Brett_Tabke




msg:1234225
 9:16 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

Whoa - thanks folks. Several lex'ers are reporting that no findings available there.

dauction




msg:1234226
 9:16 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks Brett...

beautiful board, I have been visiting in the background.

NFFC




msg:1234227
 9:20 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

It's the who that interests me, they are not a public company so any new investors have to be there with their approval.

This *could* be very interesting.

Marcia




msg:1234228
 9:34 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Is there a paper copy availible?

Not necessarily the filing, but with private placements they don't offer what's called a prospectus, rather they issue an OM - Offering Memorandum. People who are potential investors receive those from the company itself or investment bankers who are doing the placements for the company.

>is Google ready to do an IPO?

Not very likely imho, or they wouldn't be doing private placement at this point in time. Private placements for raising venture capital are very commonly done by offering either limited partnerships (as is common with oil & gas deals) or by issuing shares of Private Preferred Stock. The latter is generally touted as pre-IPO investments, but there's no guarantee of any company actually going public, and some never do.

When and if a company does go public, investors are issued publicly traded shares.

Dot Gone CEO




msg:1234229
 9:43 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

Here is some more on this from the Wall Street Journal (from March 11):

Consider Google , the popular Internet search service. It named former Novell Inc. Chief Executive Eric Schmidt as its chief executive in August, a move widely considered an effort to groom the company for an IPO. Google also has something still rare for Internet companies: It says it is profitable -- though it won't say how much it made. Google has been talking to several investment banks including W.R. Hambrecht and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and has told employees that it expects to have an IPO within six to nine months, though the company denies anything is happening yet.

Guess weŽll know soon ;-)

skibum




msg:1234230
 10:20 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

It would be rather amazing if Google still provided the same distinction between paid and non-paid listings after an IPO and didn't crumble to the pressure of quarterly results by selling inclusion or placement within results.

Mike_Mackin




msg:1234231
 10:20 pm on Apr 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

As posted in another tread:

Pre-IPO stock options [google.com]

mundonet




msg:1234232
 7:55 am on Apr 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

A nice pre IPO PR piece and discussion about Google's business model: in nytimes [nytimes.com]

NFFC




msg:1234233
 11:35 pm on Apr 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

> From what I can gather the fliling is a matter of public record

Is it? Can anybody get the scoop :)

Mike_Mackin




msg:1234234
 3:08 pm on Apr 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Can anybody get

A copy is in the mail to me.
We will see if it names NAMES

NFFC




msg:1234235
 9:32 am on Apr 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

No names, hardly any $ too;

$53,615.14

lazerzubb




msg:1234236
 2:20 pm on Apr 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

New filling
Here [sec.gov]

Allergic




msg:1234237
 2:35 pm on Apr 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

In the same day of the NYT article, a french site publish a interview from Larry Page, Sergey Brin and Eric Schmidth and the last question was :
Did you plan a IPO ?
Eric Schmidth : We don't need it. When you make a IPO it is for raising funds and we have our funds, no need to go public for the moment.

[01net.com...]

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