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New PPC using SmartSearch
Is it good or bad? any suggestions?
nakulgoyal




msg:1226272
 9:22 pm on Jul 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can it be practical to start a new PPC using SmartSearch 4.29 from smarterscripts?

Any suggestions from the BIG B's who have already done!

--
Nakul

 

Brad




msg:1226273
 9:49 pm on Jul 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think one reservation I would have is how much traffic can the script take? Will it slow to a crawl if more than X amount of people are all searching at one time?

akande




msg:1226274
 3:24 am on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hello,

As one who operates a ppc, Aaise, I would suggest using smartsearch only if you are a beginner and do not want to spend much money.

If you need a program that is very flexible and has much room for expansion, many would suggest using:

> Gossamer Threads links sql & ppc add-on
> Hyperseek with their ppc add-on
> Smartppc

I hope that the above list is helpful

nakulgoyal




msg:1226275
 8:52 pm on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think I will just see those and workout options!

Anyone has a concrete ROI chart for these PPC engines? Getting Traffic to a PPC site is not at all a problem to me usiing FAIR means of Search Engine Optimization and Link Popularity as this is what I do for most of my clients in the US and UK. It's just that an idea clicked to my mind starting off my own PPC that I thought I better research and learn a bit from the Big PPC people.

Thanks anyways but I would love more suggestions from the ones who read these posts?

Bobby_Davro




msg:1226276
 12:58 am on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

Smart Search is fine, but it won't make your PPC look professional. In otherwords, it does the trick, but it doesn't look great, and doesn't have any fancy tools. There are also certain restrictions on your web hosting set up required for uploads of excel spreadsheets, which makes it awkward to set up for large clients. Nor is it designed for high volumes, so you may be better off waiting for the MySQL version to arrive.

akande




msg:1226277
 6:22 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

Smartsearch does have a mysql version. It cost $1**.00 with free upgrades.

My site used Smartsearch but we had to change because smartsearch had no anti-fraud features and lacked other features that were vital for us.

I would suggest you go ahead and use Smartsearch for your clients because it is great software.

If you are planning on having a large number of distribution partners, you will need to use an alternative to avoid fraudulent clicks.

From experience and word of mouth, the commercial version performs very well under stress. It really depends on your server speed.

As for the professional ppc's many either use Jackhammer from hyperseek or Smartppc.

1) Will you be using a dedicated or shared server to run your ppc?

2) How many advertisers and distribution partners will you have?

Andy_Reid




msg:1226278
 4:43 pm on Aug 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think that SmartSearch is a good beginner PPC, but if this is a commercial venture, you really need to look at a more powerful script. I endorse SmartPPC and have good reason to believe that it is only getting better. The fraud protection is very good, too. We use SmartPPC on a dedicated server.

I don't have any experience with Jackhammer, so I cannot offer an opinion.

Omni7




msg:1226279
 9:08 pm on Sep 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

akande

I have been looking around for the PPC
script to use for some time.

I came across smartppc script a few moths back
but have have been debating if that is the right one to go with.

I saw Aise.com listed on their site as one
site that uses their script.

As you say you operate Aise.com
would you mind sharing the pros and cons for this script
and the company's customer support based on your experience with them

I am also looking for a reliable webhosting co.
preferably local to the bay area.

thnks

Andy_Reid




msg:1226280
 12:37 pm on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have been dealing with Jakob from SmartPPC for the last 6 weeks or so as we tweak his script to my specifications.

Aside from some minor communication difficulties (English is not his first language, but he is quite fluent) and the annoyance of communicating through Yahoo IM instead of email, he has been excellent and accommodating. I personally wish that the script wasn't encrypted so that I didn't have to rely on his help to make minor changes, but that is part of the way that he makes his living.

Overall, two thumbs up!

ppcowner




msg:1226281
 3:41 pm on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

totally agree with Andy, smartppc is the way to go
we ran smartsearch on and lost quite a lot of money due to cheaters
smartppc has more features and anonymous proxy filter and more anti cheat stuff

smartppc can handle 150.000 searches/day without any problem Jakob did advise me though to increase memory on the server to 1Gb

as for hosting, I'm with rackshack.net a few years now
no problems, fast support, but you do need to run your own box, so linux knowledge required

[edited by: Marcia at 2:42 am (utc) on Sep. 6, 2003]
[edit reason] No URLS per TOS, please. [/edit]

Omni7




msg:1226282
 8:01 pm on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

ppcowner

Are you with realppc, that is one smartppc customer that I know that uses rackshack.

Like you said to use rackshack
you need to be good with Linux.

Even though I have been with computers a long time Linux is not my strong point (even though I would like to and am trying). Actually at one point I wanted to start a linux only website (I own visuallinux.com and linuxjunction.com -- OPEN to suggestions).
Unfortunately, never did anything with them so far.

May be after I finish the PPC project.

Any other suggestions for a hosting co where I can start without a full server but can expand when needed
(Even more important -- can't deal with downtime)

I am hosting another of my website with Webpros -- This last weekend was a disaster -- on and off the site was down more than half the weekend -- Even more ridiculous -- my emails to support were returned back to me saying contact support.

I definitely dont want to use them for ppc - I even want to move the current site.

So, you can see I could really use a good suggestion for a dependable hosting co.

Any -- cautions / watchout for -- while I start thee ppc would be welcome also.

Thaks

ppcowner




msg:1226283
 8:27 pm on Sep 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

really
www.rackshack.com is what you need
the cheapest 700Gb transer/month

klaas

[edited by: Marcia at 2:41 am (utc) on Sep. 6, 2003]
[edit reason] No sigs per TOS, please. [/edit]

Andy_Reid




msg:1226284
 4:58 pm on Sep 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

We are also with rackshack. Although we are in our infancy, no problems thus far. :)

ppcowner




msg:1226285
 5:04 pm on Sep 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

no i'm <snip> I used smartsearch before
but it was not cheater resistent, smartppc is better
klaas

[edited by: Marcia at 6:25 pm (utc) on Sep. 8, 2003]
[edit reason] See TOS [webmasterworld.com], please. [/edit]

dazinda




msg:1226286
 3:52 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just bought SmartPPC a few days ago and I'm not sure the glowing comments I see here, about it, are justified.

I have searched through the admin area for the anti-cheat features and the only one I found was the ability to force a certain amount of time between clicks. I see no evidence of any other features, like something that prevents multiple clicks on the same listing over and over.

I have other questions too. When I put them to Jakob (by email), he told me to go to the admin area. I don't find that very helpful.

Omni7




msg:1226287
 5:45 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I was supposed to buy and install the script(smartppc) last week , however I have not done it yet cos I still havent finalised on the hosting co.

dazinda

First of all welcome to the forum.
Even though I am new to this too.

But if I remember it right I beleive it has the ability block of specic ip s or whole blocks besides the time feature that u mention.

I was actually going to call Jaacob myself to check how they deal with the accounting backend --
i.e. If u r using say searchfeed as a backfill and based on their rules if they refuse to pay for a particular click does that automatically gets to be nonpayable to your affiliates or can there be cases where u r paid for some clicks and u end paying for them.

I don't know if any of u has answer to this Q. or have faced such a situation.

Omni7




msg:1226288
 5:48 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

CORRECTION:

where u r NOT paid for some clicks and u end paying for them.

ppcowner




msg:1226289
 7:02 am on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

click on "IP Firewall % Proxy guard"
and deny traffic through proxies
klaas

Andy_Reid




msg:1226290
 2:26 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Does that affect AOL clicks?

dazinda




msg:1226291
 10:26 pm on Sep 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

ppcowner and andy_reid -- thanks for your comments.

The credit card payment info (in SmartPPC) comes up on an UNsecure page.

I have been looking through the admin area and templates and I can't find any indication that SSL is addressed at all.

Anyone have any comments about that?

Andy_Reid




msg:1226292
 1:00 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

I know that there is a new release addressing security issues. I will get back when I have details.

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