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Kanoodle minimums set to $0.05
Effective August 1, 2003
TomWaits

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Msg#: 165 posted 2:29 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Time to make the doughnuts, er, I mean, time to delete most of my account except for the absolutely necessary ones. Kanoodle, if you don't have fraud under control, how can you possibly raise these minimums with a clear conscience?

I might be the only client that cares anymore.

Weird how they were the one that had the partnership with eSpotting, but FindWhat whisked those boys away. Or maybe not so weird.

 

webdiversity

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Msg#: 165 posted 7:47 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Don't think your the only one that cares.

Will the last person out switch the lights off, even at 1 cents a click it's not been great value for us.

TomWaits

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Msg#: 165 posted 12:34 pm on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Coincidentally, I'm looking at our weekly logs today. Seek99 sent a boatload of questionable Kanoodle traffic.

eWhisper

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Msg#: 165 posted 3:14 pm on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Kanoodle is a puzzle. Last week they sent us 150% more traffic than Google or OV. We get enough sales to make the traffic worthwile, but the conversion rate is terrible.

I use a combination of general listings and highly targeted listings. Of course, my conversion rate is much higher on targeted listings. Of the OV/GG trafic, 10-15% of the traffic is highly targeted listings. Kanoodle has sent me 3 total highly targeted listings traffic, and all the rest general, which is exactly opposite of what I'm looking for.

Anyone know much about Kanoodle, or if they are going to get their act together and improve their search traffic partners?

On one hand, it is making a slight profit, on another, I hate giving money to someone who's not a quality company.

thewebboy

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Msg#: 165 posted 12:51 am on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

One of the big draws awhile back with 3rd rate PPC companies like Kanoodle is that they prided themselves on offering low minimums while overture raised them.

It does seem like Kanoodle traffic is junk after doing some test bidding and does not seem worth $0.05.

Kerrin

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Msg#: 165 posted 5:02 pm on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Kanoodle, if you don't have fraud under control, how can you possibly raise these minimums with a clear conscience?

The above statement surprises me. I'm a distribution partner with 8 of the top PPC companies and Kanoodle is one of the most strict when it comes to non payment on "questionable traffic".

Are you calculating your ROI based on all traffic Kanoodle sends you (ie from your own logs) or from the number of actual paid clicks Kanoodle reports?

Jungle_Jim

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Msg#: 165 posted 6:51 pm on Jul 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

As an advertiser I am very disapointed that Kanoodle is raising the minimum bid. Most of my keywords were listed at #1 or #2 for $0.02 - $0.03. I am not about to pay 75% - 100% more to remain in the same position. I have notified Kanoodle that I will close my account when my balance is used up.

TomWaits

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Msg#: 165 posted 7:01 pm on Jul 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Kanoodle is stricter than Overture US, Overture UK, FindWhat, eSpotting, or even Sprinks? Please, not in my lifetime. There are only two accounts that I'm constantly having to delete terms or lower bids: ah-ha and Kanoodle. Every month I have some Kanoodle fire I have to put out because some partner has decided they're going to have some fun. Yeah, there are some click-throughs they don't charge us for, but those are dwarfed by the questionable ones we pay for. And every time it happens I say I don't need this grief for the occasional gold nugget. Even 7Search I have less problems with. Lycos Insite, you name it. This isn't an ROI issue -- the ROI is there, that's why we put up with it. But when you have questions and they raise the minimums, the ROI probably becomes an issue for many Kanoodle merchants. And wouldn't that just be a crying shame.

Andy_Reid

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Msg#: 165 posted 4:50 pm on Aug 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

The above statement surprises me. I'm a distribution partner with 8 of the top PPC companies and Kanoodle is one of the most strict when it comes to non payment on "questionable traffic".

Ditto. Exactly. This is my experience, too, as a partner with some of the bigger guys.

dvdguy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 165 posted 3:03 am on Aug 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

The majority of the traffic that comes from Kanoodle is bogus.
Why pay them anything? Did you ever look at an IP report to see where
all the so called "visitors" are coming from? Did you ever compare
what words or terms are clicked on and see how many times someone
from the exact same IP clicked on it? Check it out sometime.
It is pretty funny.

1Lit

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 165 posted 1:17 am on Aug 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Full of fraudulent traffic. The worst conversion ratio of ANY PPC search engine we have ever used.

McSpike

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 165 posted 5:46 pm on Sep 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Every month I have some Kanoodle fire I have to put out because some partner has decided they're going to have some fun.

So true, hahaha. I put out so many fires through the year that I think no partner can hit me anymore. Least not to extent they used to hit. Every keyword receiving way more traffic than others is subject to deletition. I still make profit with them, but it took me some time to figure out the name of the game.

Talking about bad PPCs, you can add PageSeeker to the same line as well.

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