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are they partnerning with spyware companies?
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msg:1230480
 2:51 pm on Sep 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

7search seem to be partnered with coolwebsearch and umaxsearch. How does this produce good traffic?

 

luke175




msg:1230481
 12:08 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

If that is true I feel confident saying that- it wouldn't.

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msg:1230482
 1:31 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yep its true. Shamefull stuff. Coolwebsearch people belong in court not in a PPC network. Sorry this may sound harsh but please understand that their fearious activities someotimes man only formatting is a way to get rid of it.

7Seerch05




msg:1230483
 8:11 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

7Search takes only a portion of coolwebsearch traffic which has been determined through a rigorous validation process (both automated and manual) to be of genuine origin and of a qualified nature for our advertisers. If our clients, the thousands of advertisers we have serviced well since 1999, determine that any traffic they have paid for from 7Search is of poor quality (does not convert or appears as automated) they are immediately refunded. This is how 7Search has remained one of the top second-tier advertising networks and how we have continued to provide a very valuable service to the Internet community.

highway51r




msg:1230484
 1:04 am on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Does Anyone Here have an Account with 7search?
Post some search engines you find in your click logs for me from 7search traffic, and let's Cross-Ref that against the 3rd tier bottom feeders created Solely to Leach off ppc advertisers, via the ptr biz?

All I need is the name of the engines you find in your click logs. Let's see how 7search stacks up against the other 2nd tiers, with regards to ptr traffic?

With regards to cws, Most All ptr sites have it banned,rofl, EVEN PTR Won't allow cws, lol, not sure you do yourselves any great service boasting of good traffic' from them, but that's your biz, I'm Mainly concerned about your Primary Source of traffic, which I'd like to see some posts on.

7search, for the past 3 Years, has Allways been highly reccomended as a Feed for the bottom feeders in their forum, aka getpaidforum, so I would think you've done very well off of their Paid Click Traffic from ptr sites?

Now of course, this is perfectly Fine, if you Inform Your Advertisers Where that traffic is Coming from?

highway51r




msg:1230485
 1:29 am on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

lol, Long Live the 2nd Tier, rofl.

Just did a couple quick checks.

7Seerch05, I don't mean to push my luck, but I don't suppose you'd be good enough to tell me who is cross-feeding my goclick bids to you? Is it goclick themselves, or is it enhance?
just curious.

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msg:1230486
 9:55 am on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Its good to see you come to forum and attempt to clear things up, you have my respect for that. But please let me ask you something while you are here.
Its not that I want to be rude, but how many people here have been hijacked by CWS? I remember once having to format and reinstall because of this. By paying them you encourage such activity. I dont care if they say they have cleaned up their act on their page, talk is cheap. Who will go to coolwebsearch to search? Im sure nobody is going to type in their URL. How do they get their traffic? Im sure we all already know but im looking forward to your answer.
As for Umaxsearch and klikrevenue, I checked them out. I love the way their forums are all in Russian. Makes me really wonder about their US traffic levels.
But I have to say something you see to have a lot of advertisers who have stuck with you for ages, so you must be doing something right and giving them good ROI.

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msg:1230487
 9:55 am on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I believe it is enhance.

7Seerch05




msg:1230488
 4:31 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Just a follow up:

Neither Umax or Coolwebsearch generate the traffic from their own websites - for the most part they have affiliates that do SEO and these sub-affiliates deliver high quality organic traffic. While it is possible that some could be using an unethical method of generating traffic through CoolWebs or Umax, as soon as 7Search determines that some unethical tactic is being used to generate traffic (spyware, hijackware, etc), they are blocked from the 7Search network and 7Search partners are notified so that they can be removed them from their (coolwebsearch, umax) whole network as well.

From the Coolwebs website:
[coolwebsearch.com...]

For reference purposes, this is how you find out whether or not a site is related to coolwebsearch: you click a link and you track where the redirections go. If it goes through the CWS ip, which is currently 66.250.74.152, or the domain coolwebsearch.com then it's CWS, otherwise, it is not.

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There are dozens of hijacker outlets out there, and they all seem to be called "CoolWebSearch" - it's a catchy name I guess. If ever the name Yahoo and Google gets tied to some spyware or hijackware, this will be clearer to those that post false reports and those that read them. Just think how CoolGoogleWare or CoolYahooWare would appeal to people. It's the same situation - when it happens the issue will be clearer.

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Additional info from the coolwebsearch.com website:
[coolwebsearch.com...]

You will be shocked to find out that 95% of all so called "CWS hijacks" have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with Coolwebsearch. These people have never worked with us, and never will. We have never condoned the use of "hijacks" or "exploits". Unfortunately, due to carefully orchestrated framing and smear campaigns of unethical competitors, who even to this day are distributing spyware and calling them "CWS hijacks", our good name has been severely damaged.

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The 7Search Fraud Prevention department attempted to verify, to the best of its ability, that this information is correct. If any of the sub-affiliates of 7Search's direct affiliates are found to be Paid-To-Read or Automated - they are immediately blocked from the 7Search network and the advertisers are credited back for all low quality traffic. 7Search does not tolerate Paid-To-Read (PTR) traffic. We are exceptional at detecting and blocking it. Many of our larger affiliates (some of them other 2nd tier search engines) do send incentivized traffic, and when 7Search detects it, we ask them to block it from reaching 7Search listings.

Regarding questions about Enchance or GoClick. 7Search does show some results from Enchance on its own results pages, but these results are not propagated through our affiliate network. 7Search does not currently carry any results directly from GoClick.

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msg:1230489
 6:35 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Neither Umax or Coolwebsearch generate the traffic from their own websites - for the most part they have affiliates that do SEO and these sub-affiliates deliver high quality organic traffic."

So if they are capable of such why are they not directly with you? Why do you these elite SEO's go through another company? Why do they not work directly with google and overture? Indeed would any self respecting SEO do work with Coolwebsearch?

"While it is possible that some could be using an unethical method of generating traffic through CoolWebs or Umax, as soon as 7Search determines that some unethical tactic is being used to generate traffic (spyware, hijackware, etc), they are blocked from the 7Search network and 7Search partners are notified so that they can be removed them from their (coolwebsearch, umax) whole network as well."

Do a search for coolwebsearch on 7search, and see what comes up. Your advertisers saying remove this spyware. Its not just possible that they are using some methods, it is highly likely. Indeed im sure everyone here has been hijacked by them at one point. I know I was when I created this post, how else would I know you are working with them? Think I go there by choice?

Also call me suspicious, but I do not simple believe a word of what Coolwebsearch say on their website. They are known browser hijackers. Period. Or did my browser just decide it loved the page so much that it wanted to keep going there?
They can deny it and say they are victims but I doubt anyone will believe them. I know Ill learn russian so I can join their forums and ask them their side of the story.

"The 7Search Fraud Prevention department attempted to verify, to the best of its ability, that this information is correct. If any of the sub-affiliates of 7Search's direct affiliates are found to be Paid-To-Read or Automated - they are immediately blocked from the 7Search network and the advertisers are credited back for all low quality traffic. 7Search does not tolerate Paid-To-Read (PTR) traffic. We are exceptional at detecting and blocking it. Many of our larger affiliates (some of them other 2nd tier search engines) do send incentivized traffic, and when 7Search detects it, we ask them to block it from reaching 7Search listings. "

This has nothing to do with PTR, please stay on subject we are talking about browser hijacking.

Ill give 7search credit for producing good ROI but spyware is spyware. Its not exactly ethical now is it? Would the 7search team enjoy having their home pages fixed to a location? I dont think the victims of coolwebsearch do. But they are inoccent, they say so on their page right?

Maybe I am 100% wrong but I need some more convincing.

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