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sweetu




msg:1228347
 7:03 am on Aug 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I need a list of 20 search engines that have PPC and are good. Please dont mention the name of Google and Overture, that I know already :-)

 

inbound




msg:1228348
 1:58 pm on Aug 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can you tell us which country?

Tropical Island




msg:1228349
 3:07 pm on Aug 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

...20 search engines that have PPC and are good.

Good luck!

I can't even think of one anymore.

watchthis




msg:1228350
 10:45 pm on Aug 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

7search
Mirago for UK
searchfeed

These have produced some nice results for me.

WebStart




msg:1228351
 7:29 am on Aug 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

There aren't many left that are truly any good at all. Try the old Find What (now Miva), but you can find it using findwhat.com

I would not spend a lot of money with Find What, but they do seem to have tried hard over the last 2 years to clean up their act re bogus clicks. But they aren't free of that problem and it is a significant problem that haunts all the others ranked below Google and Overture.

But then, neither of them has avoided that problem and neither is always responsive when clear evidence of click fraud is pointed out to them.

Click fraud is the problem you are going to have in using any PPC, but Google and OV have too much reputation at stake to completely ignore customer complaints when it happens.

PatrickDeese




msg:1228352
 2:11 pm on Aug 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Didn't Ask Jeeves recently roll out their own in house PPC program?

As far as 20 "good" PPC engines, I doubt I could even name bad ones.

Once you drift away from G and Yahoo Search Marketing (AKA Overture), and possibly Ask Jeeves, and the future PPC program that MSN announced as "coming soon", you've pretty much ended the "PPC engines that are good" conversation and entered the "which PPC engine is likely to send you the least amount of BS traffic" conversation.

All of the "third tier" PPC engines have issues with sending extremely low quality traffic, and usually from countries that aren't likely to ever send conversions.

sweetu




msg:1228353
 4:14 am on Aug 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks all, but the problem is my client is dealing in an area (lottery) that is not allowed by Google and overture to run paid campaigns. Even though I see many ads running on Google and overture-US, but when I try to create any ad campaign for my client they say online gambling, lottery extra are not allowed.

I have never faced any such rejection before for my other clients where they have disapproved my keywords. That was the reason to move to second tyre engines. For newly launched MSN, they ask for a very heavy initial investement. Ask Jeeves I still need to look at that. Anybody who can help me know more about AskJeeves PPC?

Thanks...

JerryOdom




msg:1228354
 4:19 pm on Aug 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Look for second tier outside the United States. The US DOJ shuns gambling.

watchthis




msg:1228355
 1:18 am on Aug 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

sweetu give 7search a try. They have a good reputation for looking after gaming/gambling and lottery advertisers. I can also give you a list of one or two networks that will give you free trials. I am not sure if im allowed to paste links here, but message me if you want help with this.

photo200




msg:1228356
 5:25 pm on Aug 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

adbrite.

You can advertise on adult sites as well ( but You should buy network ads in that case ).

About 8 cents per click.

PPCExpert




msg:1228357
 6:11 pm on Aug 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

dear sweetu, i'm sorry i've try many ppc engine, Only Overture and google adwords good. Others have bad conversions.

I've try search7, bad traffic
i've try kanoodle, bad traffic

if you try any good ppc please write me! (exc. adwords and overture)

regards

ericwp3




msg:1228358
 4:38 pm on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Like most of the others, I've had good luck with Google and Yahoo Search (Overture), although the later has been declining during the past several months. I have, however, tried the following PPC engines with far worse results, using the same keywords and descriptions.

Enhance.com - Claimed to deliver 1800 clicks but generated zero sales. Ack! Google AdWords and Overture have a 2%+ conversion rate using the exact same listings :-/ I cancelled this account and requested a refund.

Miva (Formerly FindWhat)- 600 clicks and only 1 sale. Hmmm? Again, I'm using the same phrases and descriptions that convert at 2% with Google and Overture, err, um, I mean Yahoo Search Mktg.

Ask Jeeves - Just launched. So far has delivered 200 clicks and zero sales. Not encouraging.

As is, I'm considering pulling the plug on Miva and AskJeeves. I might tough it out through the holidays though since sales will most likely have a big bump in Q4. Naturally I'll keep an eye on things to make sure it all makes financial sense.

Finally, if you're not able to track your sales down to the keyword level, you're losing money! You need to use some sort of software that can track unique urls for each phrase used. The Conversion Counters provided by Google and Overture don't collect sales numbers, so you can't compare revenue to the ad spend. This is essential.

Well, I hope that offers some more insight. Good luck to all.

Eric

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