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Google to Add Urchin Web Analytics to Adwords
Free add-on for GAW users

 6:24 am on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Tomorrow Monday, Google will roll out Urchin web analytics as part of Adwords. Previously $199/month, it will be free.


Kings on steeds

 12:54 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

For Those Who are adding Analytics, google's install code checker is not working, atm, have been told my GAW that it will be sorted "soon", AWA, are you all taught on the taring corse to be as vauge as possibul, lol, i have just got data on my reports, even though it says my code isnt installed?

you know sometimes i love google!


 2:10 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Kings on steeds -
Thanks for the update. I was just coming here to post about this very issue.


 2:24 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmm, to add GA or not to add GA that is the question.
At least Analytics has a better ring to it than Urchin..

For a mid-sized Adwords user, I wonder, how much it will help.


[edited by: engine at 6:49 pm (utc) on Nov. 16, 2005]
[edit reason] TOS [/edit]


 5:06 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Finally starting to see some stats/report, except all the data is wrong. For example, it says that yesterday we had more visits than pageviews. LOL!


 8:22 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

Because of the new Google accounts, if you're using an MCC, then you can't add Urchin client accounts through the MCC as the analytics programs aren't associated with that account - but with the client account.

One has to log into every account individually to associate the IDs.

If one goes to the analytics page and receives the error 'no analytics programs are associated with this account' to be able to add the account ID right inside the MCC instead of having to log into each account individually.

If there's a different way to link existing accounts without having to do this all individually, I'd appreciate the solution (very possible I missed it dealing with all the new Google account IDs).


 8:30 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

The above post is incorrect, I'm such a security freak that I locked out everyone from my own AdWords account forgetting that I access my own Google accounts from my MCC as well - which of course, is now a different Google account (Too many Google accounts - it's getting confusing).

So, it is very important to understand the Google account access requirements - and not to think security and automatically say 'no' to everything - but to think about access.

In addition, I do really miss the old days of begin able to do more through the MCC and not thinking about all the various access points to all of these accounts...

Anyway - I've been playing with the goal settings, funnel settings, etc in the Google account - and I must say, this was very well integrated for Google accounts.

Has anyone tried cross channel tracking yet to see if it's possible to pull data from multiple sources (such as a banner ad or other ppc campaign) into this funnel?

Have been at Pubcon all week, so behind on my own research/posting until this weekend

[added]I wasn't allowed to give my own MCC access to the analystics as the error message was: "This account is already a login to another AdWords account. Please select a different Google Account login to access this account. ".

However, when I login through the MCC the analytics tab showps up. Wonder if it'll go away when the invitation that I can't accept from myself expires in a month.


 4:33 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)


How long did it take for you to start seeing statistics?


 10:06 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google might be able to use this analytics data for click fraud. For e.g. if they see that all the clicks from a particular IP address do not go past the landing page, they might mark those clicks as fraud.


 10:30 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have now switched on 3 sites.

One I have not placed the code on. The thingy that checks the code says I have added it to that site!

One I placed the code on 24 hours ago. Apparently it isn't present, according to the checker

One I placed the code on an hour ago, really to see whether there is a "standard delay"

It seems that demand has outstripped supply! I suspect it's quite warm in the various big G data centres


 11:24 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

It look about 24 hours to start seeing any data ... and it's still at least 24 hours behind at all times.


 2:43 pm on Nov 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Besides the 24+ hour lag of data (or totally missing data, as for example parts of Wednesday),

Is anyone actually already seeing Google Adwords referral and cost data in the Google Analytics reports?


 2:57 pm on Nov 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

I haven't had updated data since Wednesday.

But, the referal and organic traffic stats are hosed.

I have a support case open on it - though the promised 24 hour response lapsed a few days ago.


 3:56 pm on Nov 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

I signed up one site from PubCon on Wednesday afternoon. I finally showed data for Thursday, last night. NO data for Friday.

Signed up a second site Thursday. Google still doesn;t recognize that that the script has been added to that website.

I see they stopped allowing new sites to be added. They probably should have done that much earlier.


 8:36 am on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see they stopped allowing new sites to be added. They probably should have done that much earlier.

Google must be the only outfit in the world where "Stealth Marketing" is more successful than any other type.

No announcement, no nothing, just "shh, here it is" and Whoosh! Same for gmail, or, as we Brits must now say "Googlemail" (oops!)


 4:17 pm on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

This program is a joke and totally useless. I set it up on one site which gets less than a 1000 pageviews a day and it's been three days and it's still trying to collect stats. If Google can't grab my data for three days on a small site, they'd have to invest a huge amount of money to upgrade their processing power to handle everybody interested. I can't see them doing that and offering it for free to anyone interested.

I'm usually in Google's corner, but I think this time we've been suckered.


 11:02 am on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

I seem to have stats based on organic results until Thursday 17th.

I have don't seem to have received any stats based on the adwords campaign that Google Analytics is based on?

Since Thursday 17th I have received no stats whatsoever from any sort of results, is anyone else experiencing these sort of problems?


 4:05 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thursday is the last time they have any report data for me as well. They should take down the link on the AdWords pages if Analytics continues to be a piece of worthless crap.


 5:26 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)


My stats, while running behind, are updating regularly.

I've just about got enough data now to start mapping trends, etc... (A week is a long time in Analytics? B^>)



Kings on steeds

 5:44 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google Send Me This

email about not allowing new signups due to a backlog of requests.

i have just received the data in my account after 4 days wait. lets hope things are being sorted out!

[edited by: eWhisper at 7:12 pm (utc) on Nov. 21, 2005]
[edit reason] Please don't post emails. See TOS. [/edit]


 7:47 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Anyone got an email saying they're accepted yet?

Still waiting for mine..


 7:55 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

For those of you thinking you're not being tracked, you may be mistaken...I was.

I tried to validate that the code I entered was correct, but Google couldn't recognize it. Sent an email to support and this was their response:


The "Check Status" feature is currently not accurate. If you added the code to your pages correctly, then we are collecting data. You can make sure by seeing if your site has set "_utm" cookies in your browser.

Our engineers are currently working to solve the problem and hope to reach a resolution shortly. This will not affect data collection or report generation if you have already tagged your website with the Google Analytics Tracking Code.


I looked again and still nothing. I checked my cookies and they _utm was in fact there. So then I refreshed the analytics page and there it was.

We use Urchin for our traffic reports and I love it. Haven't spend enough time w/these reports to see if they're as good...plus there's not enough data yet.

Rich Brooks

[edited by: encyclo at 5:42 pm (utc) on Nov. 13, 2006]
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