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How does one get back into the Google database?
google search engine does not visit any more
raleighpchousecalls

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Msg#: 6778 posted 12:30 pm on Nov 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Continuing my expired thred from March 14... The more I learn about this issue the dumber I feel.
I have two identical domains / websites. One is quite aged, tht other was brand new last Winter. The new one is in the Google database but seems to have never been visited again. Page changes do not get picked up.

The original domain gets regular visits from Google and many other search engines. I have Google Adwords account for each. I have identical ad groups in each. I often get both adds displayed at the same time which is what I want... but sometimes the new domain ad is omitted. It never drops the old original domain ad. I'll chase that in another thread.

How do I get Google to visit regularly? Once a month or two would be wonderful. I wonder if the regularly visited domain has a prioirty. If so, why?

 

Brian_M

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Msg#: 6778 posted 5:54 pm on Nov 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have had very good results with submitting a googlemap.xml to Google. It's a site map in a very simple XML format, and there are even auto-generators available if you are not that familiar with XML. Check out the webmaster section of Google Help for more details.

I used the googlemap.xml file to fix some other problems in one site, but if you set the crawl value for your most valuable page to "daily," you should see a definite increase in googlebot's traffic. The googlemap.xml file will get picked up 2 or more times a day, and their bot will follow the links in that map through your site.

However, if your second site is "identical" to the first, you risk triggering a duplicate content filter. The older site will get crawled more frequently, although it may suffer somewhat in the SERPS, and the newer site will most likely get stuck in the "sandbox" for an indeterminate time.

No search engine wants to deliver duplicate content to its customers, and they all have different means of handling this problem, but you should never create "identical" pages or sites in an attempt to gain exposure. That is just asking for trouble, and may eventually cause your sites to be permanently banned from the SERPS.

Hope this helps…

AdWordsAdvisor

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Msg#: 6778 posted 8:29 pm on Nov 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

...I have Google Adwords account for each. I have identical ad groups in each. I often get both adds displayed at the same time which is what I want...

No search engine wants to deliver duplicate content to its customers, and they all have different means of handling this problem, but you should never create "identical" pages or sites in an attempt to gain exposure. That is just asking for trouble, and may eventually cause your sites to be permanently banned from the SERPS.

I can't really speak for the SERPS, since I'm not involved with the search side of Google's business - but I should mention that having two AdWords accounts advertising identical sites & having two ads appear for a given search is, for certain, counter to the AdWords Terms and Conditions.

AWA

raleighpchousecalls

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Msg#: 6778 posted 12:44 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wow! Sorry about that. I missed that "duplicate sites" restriction some where. I first saw it in sites that sell perfume and sites that sell watches. A few years back, Magahous and dirtcheapdrives were identical except for the "front page" or index page.

I should explain... I am trying to supplement my Social Security by performing very local computer service. I have one Domain hosted elsewhere and a similarly named domain as backup (which is the FrontPage source on my own PC connected through Time Warner cable.) To call this a budget operation is an understatment.

I have ocassional outages and can switch the url in my Google AdWords Since my main hosting service is placed near Miami, I was down for 6 days recently. I was able to redirect my ads to my local PC.

Being a one man, low overhead operation, the high costs of clicks is being hurtful. The regional and national players in computer service are competing for the same space I am.

This brings up an interesting question...
regarding "duplicate." Is it legitmate if I have the front page substantially different, but the rest of the pages the same? I can easily do that by having an index.htm and an index.html, and set my local Apache to default to the other one.

Thanks!
Carl

DamonHD

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Msg#: 6778 posted 11:08 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi,

There are legitimate reasons for mirrored sites (and yours seems to be one of them) and I use mirrors too.

I hope that G and other SEs can distinguish this legit case from theft/cloning/feeds.

But *do not* expect that putting up n copies of a page will get you n entries in the SERPS or n times the traffic. If SEs do their job right (for their users doing seraches) then your total traffic volume and SERPS entries should stay about the same as if you had just one copy.

Rgds

Damon

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