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Search Network "Partner" Sites
some of them are a joke...
jotafk




msg:1120156
 4:30 pm on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)


Well, I don't know about you, but I cannot believe that Google considers some sites that are nothing more than a search engine for Adwords as "Partner Sites".

These type of sites are nothing but an excuse to make money through Adsense at the costs of the Adwords advertiser.
The Adsense guy loves it and Google also is a winner in this situation.

I've finally decided to e-mail Google about this and I'm waiting for the reply.
I also decided to stop my campaigns where I see this kind of abbuse.

What are your thoughts about this?

 

limitup




msg:1120157
 9:25 pm on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree 110%. I emailed them awhile ago about one particular site that was sending me tons of bogus clicks, and they didn't even reply. I can only assume that they allow it because they know they can get away with it, and they make tons of extra money off of it.

I've given up caring, and I just focus on my bottom line. It's like click fraud - just a cost of doing business online. I make tons of extra money because of Google, so I can't really complain all that much.

Google is becoming the next Microsoft ... and I don't think anyone important cares, because all the founders and key people are all billionaires now LOL

wayne




msg:1120158
 1:44 pm on May 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

We need to be demanding an exclusion list for
the search network also. They now have one for
the content network, there is no reason they
can't give us one for the search network also.

BriGuy20




msg:1120159
 12:43 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree that there should be certain site exclusions for some ads. My website gets "search-only" hits from the whole gambit of sites, from google all the way down to second and third tier shopping engines. I'd love to be able to get rid of some of the worst ones.

beren




msg:1120160
 9:10 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

We need to be demanding an exclusion list for
the search network also. They now have one for
the content network, there is no reason they
can't give us one for the search network also.

Yes. Agreed 100%. An exclusion list for content network was a good gesture from Google, but it's those search affiliates that really get me mad.

sem4u




msg:1120161
 10:29 am on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree 110%. I emailed them awhile ago about one particular site that was sending me tons of bogus clicks, and they didn't even reply. I can only assume that they allow it because they know they can get away with it, and they make tons of extra money off of it.

Have they got back to you yet?

jotafk




msg:1120162
 7:47 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you're referring at me the answer is no, they didn't reply to me yet.

limitup




msg:1120163
 12:52 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Me neither.

Asmo




msg:1120164
 1:11 am on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Here's one I found today. A certain site apparently has a page loaded with stolen content using desired keywords in order to knock real sites out of position, then redirects everyone except maybe Google to a page full of AdWords.

For example (not the real search term), if you look up "foo restaurant in timbuktu" you might see a real listing for "Foo Restaurant, Timbuktu" then a listing for the rip-off site using the exact same description, but if you click there are only AdWords for "foo widgets" -- nothing to do with any "restaurant."

And so on; an additional search for "foo state park" or "foo bug zapper" or other high-ranking sites containing "foo" and there is a legit site listing plus a false site listing not far behind, both using the same description.

I used the Google spam form to report them, I'll be interested to see what Google does about it since they are essentially rewarding an affiliate for abusing their search engine, in this case.

jotafk




msg:1120165
 9:59 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ok, here's the entire reply to my e-mail:

"
<email snipped>.
"

So, it seems that there will be in the near future also the possibility to choose the individual sites also for the search network.

[edited by: eWhisper at 10:18 pm (utc) on May 17, 2005]
[edit reason] No email snippets. Please read TOS. [/edit]

AdWordsAdvisor




msg:1120166
 10:26 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Jotafk, I've been following this thread, and have been making sure that the comments here are forwarded to the right folks. I wanted to correct an apparent misunderstanding, though, before it takes on a life of it's own.

So, it seems that there will be in the near future also the possibility to choose the individual sites also for the search network.

Based on all that I now of Site-Targeted ads, which you appear to be referring to, this is not actually correct.

Here is some info, quoted from the AdWords Help Center (bolding mine):

Site-targeted campaigns are a new enhancement to Google AdWords. Site targeting lets advertisers choose individual sites in the Google content network where they'd like their ads to appear. AdWords advertisers will be able to target keywords (as they do now) or target individual sites, depending on their advertising goals.

Site targeting is not available yet. We're beta-testing the system now with a small number of advertisers, and we expect to make site targeting available to all AdWords advertisers in the near future.

Quoted from:

What is site targeting?
[adwords.google.com...]

Again, please know that your feedback on this subject has been passed on.

AWA

jotafk




msg:1120167
 10:24 am on May 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

AWA, thanks for the reply.

I am sorry for posting the complete E-mail, didn't know it was against the rules... my mistake.

Going on topic, I must say that by reading the e-mail sent from GG's support person I became convinced that in the future it will be possible to chose in which sites we want our ads to run even in the Search Network.
That was explicit when it was written "We hope to make site targeting available to all AdWords advertisers in the
near future."

Anyway, it's good to know that Google people is informed about our worries and problems, I think it's the first step to solve them.

jotafk




msg:1120168
 10:26 am on May 18, 2005 (gmt 0)


Just to clarify...

I assumed that site-targeting was available to all users right now, which is not.
So it was my mistake again, sorry about that.

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