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Watch for Click Fraud
too many "coincidental" searchers from same network of sites
patient2all




msg:1155706
 9:10 am on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi,

Watch your logs for a "Search Partner" whose URL sounds like "your kind of personal search the way you want it". Some of my campaigns got too many of the same phrases clicked for it to be a coincidence Sunday.

You go to the site and it has a text box already filled in with the keyword.

OT: For my friends who I've neglected to contact, I am truly sorry, got backlogged in life with personal issues the last few days, but I never forget a friend.

Mrs. Patient and I celebrate 30 years together on Tuesday and she's taking the day off for lab tests which I'm sure will turn out fine! 30 years as a loyal husband and "whatever" before that and I've never strayed!

My point there is I'm loyal and never forget a friend!

Thanks for your "patience"! ' end OT:

patient2all

 

kwngian




msg:1155707
 1:09 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Also, wondering why google would want to partner with a company that does drive-by spyware installation. Doesn't comes as a surprise if they're doing that, a partner with questionable ethics from the start.

The other thing to watch out for in your log is the http 304 code. There are a huge amount of 'visitors' that does repeat clicking on your ads from various different location but generates 304.

limitup




msg:1155708
 1:55 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Turn off content network, simple solution. Net net I highly doubt there are many advertisers who have a positive, meaningful ROI from the content network. Obviously it's different in every industry but in mine the clicks are about 1/10 as good as the search network.

beren




msg:1155709
 3:18 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

^ I think the problem here isn't the content network; it's the search network. And even if you have opted out of the content network, AdSense sites can still have a Google search function that makes your ads show up. Some of the most sleazy ones use this to get around the fact that advertisers have opted out of content match.

You go to the site and it has a text box already filled in with the keyword.

I HATE that. But these "affiliates" will do anything to pump up their revenues.

kwngian




msg:1155710
 3:27 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)


Its google's 'search partner'. Not a content site.

kwngian




msg:1155711
 5:06 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)


If you notice, from this particular partner, the User Agent always show IE with FunWebProducts so most probably the user did not even click on anything but it is an 'automated process'.

nyet




msg:1155712
 5:23 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

IMHO the quality of the "search partners" has been declining.

We opted out of Adsense "junk" and now this "junk" is foisted on us.

I wish we could somehow chose to only "eat" healthy!

kwngian




msg:1155713
 5:26 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have started using doxdesk's parasite script to warn the visitors.

No wonder there are days where I get so many visitors but so little click throughs.

Come to think of it, using the script may not even work since it may be served as popunders, the user won't even know.

patient2all




msg:1155714
 5:58 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Limit,

Beren is right, Content has been off for months. These sites (and there are a whole network with variations on the same name) are in Search and barely look like some sort of search engine. It comes bundled with some file sharing programs, some highly popular programs like WeatherBug and is pre-installed on some new Dell computers from November 2004.

And Kwngian, you're on the money too - FunWebProducts is hijacking IE search behavior to go to their member sites through a drive-by ActiveX download. Naive users with their first computer don't even realize anything is amiss.

My brother in law who is computer savvy didn't quite realize that his Google "results" didn't quite look like the Google page. They almost did, but there was something a little amiss. All the SERP urls were pointing to the same place on the first page. Then this thing throws up these automated pop-up windows that do "searches" for you.

I guess I didn't do too well a job of not naming the AdWare or whatever worse name we can call it.

Limit, having these problems only with the Content Network is sooo last month, don't you know? :)

Is this a big problem for Google, I doubt it since it brings in big money. A big problem is that Metakomm doesn't have enough content links on his honest sales sites.

patient2all

limitup




msg:1155715
 6:08 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Gotcha, I misread your post. I'm seeing the same thing just not nearly as much with search. I wonder if we all started complaining to Google they would even care? I'm sure we could get together 50 people from WebmasterWorld who spend a combined total of at least 50k a day and maybe they would listen to our gripes ...

kwngian




msg:1155716
 7:02 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've already wrote to Google Adword, lets see how they address this.

Couldn't warn the users because they close the browser even before the script loads.

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