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Toolbar greyed for all sites?
Google's toolbar not showing PR anymore?
cigjonser




msg:1103129
 11:34 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

Does anyone else see the toolbar greyed out for all sites? I'm not getting anything.

 

SuddenlySara




msg:1103249
 9:53 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

delayed search . com

That is funny! I just came here to post something funny too. I just had a link partner send me an email telling me that I was removed from their site because I have a penalty on Goooooogles PR system.

I thought, "wow what a 'system' and did he just send this email to all of his link partners?"

The funniest thing is that I'm on the top of goooooogle and yahoooo for the same keywords that both our sites are about...?

ShunT




msg:1103250
 10:03 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

You should email them back "Well it's too late, now you also have been penalized by Google!"

That will get him/her going....

dvduval




msg:1103251
 10:06 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

I went ahead and reinstalled the toolbar, but disabled "advanced features" (pagerank).

SuddenlySara




msg:1103252
 10:13 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

ShunT...
My reply was, "It's not my site banned! Take a look at your own site and you will see that you are the one completly banned by Goooooogle!"

SuddenlySara




msg:1103253
 10:27 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

I just back tracked on this thread and Brett was right...

It's only a little glitche people. Party at my house ;-)

madpenguin2




msg:1103254
 10:51 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Freaked me out as well... I went through all my sites and thought oh crap! Then came to Webmasterworld... boy was I relieved to see this thread...

Brett

MarkWolk




msg:1103255
 10:59 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Gray (grey?) here in New Zealand too. It seems to be an old problem: see here [google.com] or maybe the end of PR?

ann




msg:1103256
 11:00 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

yep, I second that emotion!

Old problem, but I've never seen it go world wide. Have any of you?

[edited by: ann at 11:03 pm (utc) on May 28, 2005]

tictoc




msg:1103257
 11:01 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

the Google Directory has pr 5 for everything which is really strange!

wruppert




msg:1103258
 11:35 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maybe they turned it off for a while to get some work done. I'm seeing some new big shifts in the serps I watch. I've also moved up in the Google directory since just a few hours ago.

Slone




msg:1103259
 11:46 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Honestly would not mind seeing PageRank vanish - visibly anyway. It sure would cut down on all the freakiní "hey link to us, we feel our sites fit" crap mails.

limitup




msg:1103260
 11:54 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm 99% positive they are just doing a huge backlink and PR update. Perhaps it's faster/easier/better if they just take the whole system down...

Lex_Luther




msg:1103261
 12:01 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

All Greyed out in Gotham City

Erku




msg:1103262
 1:00 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

This could be a huge update or something.

But I would not mind the PR vanishing either because I believe it was already being manipulated.

In the past when I was deciding to link to another page, one of the first thing I would look was the page rank, but now, you look more into the real content not the number on the page.

I have seen pages where there is no real value, but it has PR 5 or something like that. I have always asked why? Because they either bought links or had many sites linking to them.

indias next no1




msg:1103263
 1:10 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

i think Google ( G ) has finally decided to knock out the SEO companies. I think this is not a technical problem, here after there will be no page rank will be displayed.

G means God, God only knows the future.

silverbytes




msg:1103264
 1:14 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

Grey here too and feeling strange whitout any green, very unpleasant sensation...

BillyS




msg:1103265
 1:32 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm 99% positive they are just doing a huge backlink and PR update.

It's been like a day now. What's the longest it's been AWOL before? The only thing that could take this long is a rebuild of the database and recalculation. Could you imagine? On a holiday weekend?

Sobriquet




msg:1103266
 1:32 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wondering - They may be thinking to start the calculation of PR with an altogether now algorithm ( as the old one is highly manupulative ). And to start with, all sites initially would have zero PR.

PR, as we all felt, has come to stay. But like good milk gone sour with time, maybe Google decided to replace it with a new system.

I dont think they will scrap the PR system altogether. Afterall, PR has been one of the highlights of Google Technology since long and they may noy like to lose it.

It is always better to improve and repair gadgets than throwing them altogether. Millions of websites swear by the PR hype Google had created, and it is not fair to drop it one fine day. This effects the credibility of Google with all the webmasters.

If they are closing PR system just because (1) No direct revenue and (2) being manipulated; then who knows tomorrow they may just close the search also as even that has been manipulated to an extent.
Afterall they may be feeling that Adwords alone can feed them for next zillion years.

BillyS




msg:1103267
 1:38 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

They may be thinking to start the calculation of PR with an altogether now algorithm.

Perhaps they are switching to TrustRank. I hope so, I got a couple of links from .edu site and National Public Radio just recently.

mickeymart




msg:1103268
 1:45 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

you know how people can set whatever pagerank they want?

what if people dont make it obvious by adding just 1 or 2 to their rank?

I would never exchange money for anything having to do with pagerank, but I guess if theres money in it...more power to ya.

Stefan




msg:1103269
 1:49 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's been like a day now. What's the longest it's been AWOL before?

More than a day in the past - maybe Brett or someone remembers what was the longest in the last few years. This isn't a particularly abnormal occurrence. The thing will likely be back in a day or so still jerking our strings. I'd rather they just drove a stake through its heart, honestly, at least with the public version.

BillyS




msg:1103270
 1:51 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I just finished working on my site for the night and thought I would catch a couple of links (I try to get about five links a week, usually on the weekends.)

I'm working off a list of sites that is like 1,000 rows long, go to the first site. Go through my normal routine, the site looks clean. I think to myself, okay what does Google have to say? My eyes go up to the toolbar and...

Gunna have a Margarita instead.

proton




msg:1103271
 1:53 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I get a vicarious thrill seeing a gray PR toolbar at google!

grandpa




msg:1103272
 1:57 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I dont think they will scrap the PR system altogether.
Agreed. Google Search is predicated on the PR system.

Google is an innovative and forward thinking company, no longer just 2 guys and thier friends making something great. Maybe the Google style is changing too, growing up into corporate leadership. A little less forthcoming, maybe even more secretive, but constantly working to make it better - albeit for more themselves these days. That's to be expected and not at all surprising.

A long weekend is a good time to perform systemwide upgrades. Ask any sysadmin, I'm sure they'll tell you the same thing. From the corporate view your employees are away for 3 days so there will be minimal disruption to regular schedules. The internet doesn't really take holidays - so no time is a good time from that point of view. We can only take what we get and roll with it. Maybe they're suggesting that webmasters take a holiday too.

Voxman




msg:1103273
 2:14 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

same in Canada

MarkWolk




msg:1103274
 2:48 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

For me, directory.google.com still displays the PR properly; it's just the toolbar that doesn't.

bobmutch




msg:1103275
 3:25 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)
MarkWolk: The GPR icon (pos.gif/neg.gif) is static in the Google Directory but the Google Toolbar reads it from Google database. For the Google Directory to change Google would need to update all the files. So the fact that it is showing in the Dirctory just means that Google has not updated the Directory files.
Kirby




msg:1103276
 3:35 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

>So the fact that it is showing in the Dirctory just means that Google has not updated the Directory files.

I'm seeing the directory bouncing between two sets of results.

cabowabo




msg:1103277
 3:45 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

More than a day in the past - maybe Brett or someone remembers what was the longest in the last few years.

A few years back it went 4-5 days and when everyone was convinced PageRank was officially dead, it came back. Give it some time, enjoy the sun, and it will be back by Tuesday I believe.

Cheers,

CaboWabo

cyberair




msg:1103278
 4:07 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

cabowabo,

Did it come back that time with a major PR update, or was it mostly unchanged?

vabtz




msg:1103279
 4:13 am on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good thing we got Alexa traffic rank instead.

Thats a much better number to market when selling links.

/sarcasm

seriously PR is silly its the whats in the logs that count.

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