| 3:28 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Yes, toolbar PR has gone, but so what,eh! It has happened before. I can't believe it is worthy of a 50-page thread!
Besides, does anyone see any real merit from PR these days? Has it suddenly become important again? If so, that's certainly a blast from the past.
| 3:29 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
>>>>Yes, toolbar PR has gone,
But for better or worse it is back. And looks like it will be around for a while I would have thought.
| 3:59 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Definitely some webmasters smoking too much of something they shouldn't here ;)
| 4:14 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
PR is back here in North Carolina
| 4:22 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
It's back, but shoes a grey bar on one of my sites. I tried loading it multiple ways too, and nothing... The site ranks #1 for companyname.
| 5:47 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
It is back since one hour or so.
| 5:57 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I think many webmasters were mistaking the absence of a Google toolbar PR indicator and its possible demise with the possible demise of PR itself as the basis of Google's ranking algo. Hence the hysteria.
For many the PR toolbar shows perhaps the only tangible results of an SEO's link building efforts.
(This is of course neglecting SERPs, but judging by them is a lot vaguer than a straightforward PR comparison.)
| 7:14 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
| 7:25 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Not only is the PR back, but also the old "non-colored" search results, without the fancy purple and green highlights we saw while the toolbar was blank.
| 7:39 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
So, now that the feathers, dust, and what-not has settled, there is at least one conclusion all of us can embrace...
GG does not see the PR toolbar servers as mission critical. For that matter, I suspect that page relevance and placement within the serps is calculated some where else than on those servers.
| 8:58 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I am embracing another conclusion here:
Believing in little green men from Mars (and Mountain View, CA) may NOT be a well founded belief after all (…and- erm, SERP rankings also aren't green!)
| 9:22 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
It was a joke that my site was banned by Google. Saw a post in another forum about banning, so one should be careful with jokes in the Google world. GoogleBOT follow you. Hi professor GoogleBOT why not turn on the green light? Never have som many written so much about a little green bar. In vain?
PR = Public Relation as one wrote in this post.
"The only thing that did not lie was mathematics, simply because it could not."
| 9:41 pm on May 31, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Can we please end this thread?
I made the mistake of checking "notify me of replies" before I submitted a post on page 25.
And besides, PR's back up, the ordeal is over, and the only thing people are discussing now is speculation over Google's ethics, algo's and investor relations.
So please start a new thread. Anybody. Please!
...at least for the sake of my tired inbox.
|Pass the Dutchie|
| 6:48 am on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Another reason that it generated so much comment was that once again, Google chose to say nothing about the problem. PR indeed! If they had a status report on their home page they could tell people when things are gubbed and there would not be so much speculation (or panic on some occasions.) |
Let’s assume this was in some way deliberate. If a message had been posted by G there would have been little to talk/panic about. I am sure this little exercise, weather planned or not has provided the G buffs with just that little bit more knowledge about the SEO world. No one other than the optimisers gives a rats a*# about PR. SEO's are the thorn in Google's side so why should they be concerned about their public relations to us?
| 4:36 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I stopped using the google toolbar...
As far as 'PR' is concerned it is a complete waste of time. Like someone said on this forum, it makess webmasters feel like they're doing something, going somewhere. It's a great marketing tool and tracking method for Google but doesn't do much for me.
I see sites that have a pr of 4 above sites that have 7 etc...
Before linking to anysite I find out who it is, where they are, check spamhaus.... then if that looks good I spend some time looking at the site itself -
PR is a complete waste of time!
| 5:11 pm on Jun 1, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|SEO's are the thorn in Google's side so why should they be concerned about their public relations to us? |
They probably aren't but then the PR tool is provided to everyone, not just webmasters and SEOs. How many people use things like Froogle, University Search, Print Search, Translate, etc. Probably not many but when G knows that any of their services are not working a status bar could be used to let their users know about this. This is just common courtesy.
|I see sites that have a pr of 4 above sites that have 7 etc... |
Of course you do. Many PR4 sites are more relevant than PR7 sites for specific searches. That has always been the case.
| 5:36 am on Jun 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
My toolbar PR hasnt been working since it first went off. But when I change in the toolbar settings Use Google site from Australia (google.com.au) to google.com the toolbar PR correctly displays.
| 2:32 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I hate to resurrect this post again, but am I right in thinking that most people have their PR back in their toolbar?
Mine has not come back since it disappeared - I'm in Australia.
| 10:55 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
yup the rest of the world has PR back.
maybe you should re-install the toolbar.
| 11:02 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
graeme"Mine has not come back since it disappeared - I'm in Australia. "
Try to put your PC upsidedown or down under then you'll see the thin green line :)
| 5:27 pm on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
my pr is broke for all sites
| 7:08 pm on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0)|
PR toolbar went grey again - I'm in Australia as well.
fyi - not sure if it was a coincidence, but i downloaded the latest toolbar version and it previously came back [ around 4 days ago ] - but just repeating it's gone down again
| 5:57 am on Jun 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
how do I put my website into google search:
can you search my web by google?
please help me,thanks and best regards
| 3:23 am on Jun 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
yeah im in australia also. I thought my toolbar just got broken so i uninstalled it and installed a new copy of it but still the same solid grey
| 3:51 am on Jun 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
is working as normal for me.
| 2:49 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I'm in Australia and my IE shows no PR for any site but my Firefox toolbar shows it fine.
| 4:24 am on Jun 15, 2005 (gmt 0)|
PR Toolbar is now FIXED! :)
Thanks to some good friends who sent this simple instruction. It might be a similar case with persons using other country defaults - why doesn't Google communicate these things to make us all happy?
"You can get your google toolbar functioning again by following these steps:
1. First uninstall it
2. Re-installing it
3. Where the installer has the option "Please select a google site to
use for your searches", ensure that you leave it as the default
4. Also ensure that you select "enable advanced features"
For some reason google does not seem to have restored its PR info for Australian toolbar users yet and therefore if you select google.com.au
as your google site for searches the toolbar shows no pagerank.
next thing ........ my 50,000 .com.au page site went down the tube around the same time as this instability [ May 23 thru to now ] ..... any experts out there ..... could it have something to do with .au backlinks being upset in the search algorithm! ie my referral links sould somehow be caught up in the breakdown?
Guy's and Girls I'm on my knees hoping for a solution!
| 4:45 am on Jun 15, 2005 (gmt 0)|
even just going to options and changing "Use Google Site" from .com.au to .com, then closing IE and reopening it, has got my PR working again (ie. no need to reinstall toolbar)